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From: Calum on 11 Jun 2010 14:17 On 11/06/10 18:15, Doc O'Leary wrote: > Most damning of all is that I have never seen anyone from Panic here > when discussions of Usenet clients come up. They really don't seem to > care, and it shows. How many developers from other companies show up here when their products are mentioned? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: TaliesinSoft on 11 Jun 2010 15:30 On 2010-06-11 12:15:41 -0500, Doc O'Leary said: > Most damning of all is that I have never seen anyone from Panic here > when discussions of Usenet clients come up. They really don't seem to > care, and it shows. I've had a number of exchanges with Panic regarding problems and suggestiions for Unison and have found them both responsiv and helpful. -- James Leo Ryan -- Austin, Texas -- <taliesinsoft(a)me.com>
From: Mike Rosenberg on 11 Jun 2010 18:42 Calum <com.gmail(a)nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote: > > Most damning of all is that I have never seen anyone from Panic here > > when discussions of Usenet clients come up. They really don't seem to > > care, and it shows. > > How many developers from other companies show up here when their > products are mentioned? Stefan Haller, the developer of MacSOUP, has often responded to posts here. Oh, and Brian Clark used to respond to posts about YA-Newsreader and Thoth. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Sandman on 12 Jun 2010 02:52 In article <87d3seFnaiU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-10 11:58:05 -0500, Doc O'Leary said: > > > Unison seems to, despite being a pretty crappy client when it comes to > > actually reading Usenet. > > I'm curious as to what you find as "pretty crappy" when it comes to > Unison's reading Usenet. I've been using Unison for about six months > and although I fround a few minor quirks (which I have reported to > Panic and which are being addressed) but none that I can think of that > relate to reading postings. Unison lacks scoring and filtering on the References header. Two features that are essential to me. -- Sandman[.net]
From: Sandman on 12 Jun 2010 02:54
In article <87fh74F1bpU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-06-11 12:15:41 -0500, Doc O'Leary said: > > > Most damning of all is that I have never seen anyone from Panic here > > when discussions of Usenet clients come up. They really don't seem to > > care, and it shows. > > I've had a number of exchanges with Panic regarding problems and > suggestiions for Unison and have found them both responsiv and helpful. This is one mail I've sent to them regarding Unison: Unison is a great program. It's easy to use for a beginner and with 1.8 it's also a lot faster. The problem is when you're an old-school usenet:er like me and want to replace the ageing UI of MT-NewsWatcher... I can't sift through thousands of usenet posts each day without heavy-duty filtring, which currently only MT-NW delivers. What I miss in Unison is most notably: - Filtering on *any* header (or at least the ones downloaded by XOVER), most importantly the References: header - Scoring! One of the actions of a filter should be to set scoring - Filter on scoring, so I can create a filter that runs last that kills all posts that has received a scoring less than 0. - Set colors on both background of the row as well as the text in the row (some posts with blue background, some with just blue text) - Set colors on the subject column and the author column respectively, not on the entire row Please tell me that all of these features are in 1.9 and it will be released tomorrow :-D --------------------------- So, to illustrate this, I'll show you this (old) screenshot: http://sandman.net/files/mtnw_filters.jpg The filters at play here are things like: highlight subject to <white on dark blue> if "references" match the regex "<mr[^ ]@[^ ]individual.net>$" highlight subject to <black on light blue> if "references" match the regex "<mr[^ ]@[^ ]individual.net>" Those are for "replies to me" and "threads I've participated in" highlight subject to <red on white> if references is "" Are for new threads, which could or could not start with "Re: " depending on different factors, hence the dependancy on the references-header. I also have a list of colors for specific authors, so people that are trolls, or people that I agree a lot with can have different colors. This can be done with your current regex rules, but the coloring applies to the entire row, which is bad. I propose three different coloring actions on a filter: Set Row Color Set Author Color Set Subject Color And, "row" color could be the background color of the row, while author and subject color could be the color of the text for each column. Not as flexible as MTNW, but probably easier for you to implement (I'm guessing that having different background colors for each column may lead to some heavy re-writing of the list code). And, on top of all this - SCORING. So a reply to me get +100, but if it's a reply from a troll, it gets -50. and if it's crossposted, it gets -30 and so on. And then I want to be able to sort on scoring, so the posts most important to me shows up at the top. So, as a hardcore usenet user, these are very important things for me. I really love the UI of Unison and I would love to use it instead of MTNW. When I've talked about Unison with other hardcore usenet users, they've also mentioned scoring and filtering on references to be the biggest things they want. An example back in 2005: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/2b50e3db8bb8b7 17 So, long mail, hope it helped some :) -- Sandman[.net] |