From: Mark Warner on
»Q« wrote:
> Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>> Now even today, Linux is not nearly ready to usurp either one of them
>> on the mass market scale.
>
> It's not the goal of GNU/Linux users or developers to "usurp" Apple or
> Microsoft. AFAICT from the drivel you post, you either think that is
> the goal or should be the goal. Your misconceptions (probably
> deliberate)

Deliberate? That would presume a semblance of understanding. Not the
case with BB...

> ...allow you to dismiss a good desktop systems without
> knowing anything about them.

Kinda hafta run them for a period of time to gain that knowledge,
donchya think? Which is difficult when you can't even install it them.
You can only learn so much running a Live Cd.

> That's very handy for a Microsoft fanboy
> like you, but it makes all of your posts about operating systems
> worthless.

I think that's become obvious to all, even those that aren't interested
in exploring alternative operating systems. If/when they ever do, I
doubt they'll take anything BB has to say seriously. Or at least I hope so.

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From: H-Man on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:00:11 +0100, za kAT wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>
>> What's in a Name? <maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:20100614144306.7671e424.maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com:
>>
>>> Most users use whatever OS came on their PC. Most PCs come with some
>>> flavor of windows.
>>
>> There is good reason for that. For the most part when the Internet took
>> off (even a bit before), there was Windows or Mac (who was too market
>> dumb to capture the market). Linux wasn't even born
>
> More waffle. When did the Internet take off bumhole?
>
> Linus first post was 1991. HTML 1.0 formally published 1993.
>
> Windows 3.11 1993. Did that have a browser. I don't remember one. BBS
> maybe.
>
> If you are going to play the elder statesman, at least check your facts.
>
> Cretinous.

Spyglass Mosaic was released in '93, and IE1 was released in '95. AFAIK,
Win3.11 didn't get IE until like '96. Not sure if Mosaic was released for
Win3 in '93 or if that was later, but I remember having internet access for
Windows '95 first. That was when dial up became affordable in my area. I
got Win95 the day after the official release. Had a 75MHz pentium machine
with 16MB of memory and I had to upgrade to a 2MB video card. High tech at
the time. The really fast machines were 90 or 100MHz machines, man those
really cooked! .....

Sorry, kinda went off onto memory lane. I'd say it took off in the second
half of '95 in my area anyway. If I remember correctly, by '96 or '97, I
was dual booting a RH linux version with Win95.
From: za kAT on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:29:51 -0600, H-Man wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:00:11 +0100, za kAT wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> What's in a Name? <maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:20100614144306.7671e424.maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Most users use whatever OS came on their PC. Most PCs come with some
>>>> flavor of windows.
>>>
>>> There is good reason for that. For the most part when the Internet took
>>> off (even a bit before), there was Windows or Mac (who was too market
>>> dumb to capture the market). Linux wasn't even born
>>
>> More waffle. When did the Internet take off bumhole?
>>
>> Linus first post was 1991. HTML 1.0 formally published 1993.
>>
>> Windows 3.11 1993. Did that have a browser. I don't remember one. BBS
>> maybe.
>>
>> If you are going to play the elder statesman, at least check your facts.
>>
>> Cretinous.
>
> Spyglass Mosaic was released in '93, and IE1 was released in '95. AFAIK,
> Win3.11 didn't get IE until like '96. Not sure if Mosaic was released for
> Win3 in '93 or if that was later, but I remember having internet access for
> Windows '95 first. That was when dial up became affordable in my area. I
> got Win95 the day after the official release. Had a 75MHz pentium machine
> with 16MB of memory and I had to upgrade to a 2MB video card. High tech at
> the time. The really fast machines were 90 or 100MHz machines, man those
> really cooked! .....
>
> Sorry, kinda went off onto memory lane. I'd say it took off in the second
> half of '95 in my area anyway. If I remember correctly, by '96 or '97, I
> was dual booting a RH linux version with Win95.

Sounds about right. I had to pull a very old copy of the GNU testament of
the shelf. 1994. I was messing with Win 3.11 and a Linux [no idea what. I
remember something about Walnut Creek?] on a 486 DX2. I think you are right
win 95 was my first Internet experience, on a P75, but I vaguely remember
using a DOS browser Arachne, shortly before or after, canny remember.

Not sure you would call that the time the Internet took off though. It was
still pretty geeky. I remember how excited I was the first time I used a
BBS. Funny.

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From: za kAT on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:45:31 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:

> za kAT <zakAT(a)super-secret-IPaddress.invalid> wrote in
> news:hvbksp$4u1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:29:51 -0600, H-Man wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:00:11 +0100, za kAT wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's in a Name? <maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:20100614144306.7671e424.maxpro4u(a)hotmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Most users use whatever OS came on their PC. Most PCs come with
>>>>>> some flavor of windows.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is good reason for that. For the most part when the Internet
>>>>> took off (even a bit before), there was Windows or Mac (who was too
>>>>> market dumb to capture the market). Linux wasn't even born
>>>>
>>>> More waffle. When did the Internet take off bumhole?
>>>>
>>>> Linus first post was 1991. HTML 1.0 formally published 1993.
>>>>
>>>> Windows 3.11 1993. Did that have a browser. I don't remember one.
>>>> BBS maybe.
>>>>
>>>> If you are going to play the elder statesman, at least check your
>>>> facts.
>>>>
>>>> Cretinous.
>>>
>>> Spyglass Mosaic was released in '93, and IE1 was released in '95.
>>> AFAIK, Win3.11 didn't get IE until like '96. Not sure if Mosaic was
>>> released for Win3 in '93 or if that was later, but I remember having
>>> internet access for Windows '95 first. That was when dial up became
>>> affordable in my area. I got Win95 the day after the official
>>> release. Had a 75MHz pentium machine with 16MB of memory and I had to
>>> upgrade to a 2MB video card. High tech at the time. The really fast
>>> machines were 90 or 100MHz machines, man those really cooked! .....
>>>
>>> Sorry, kinda went off onto memory lane. I'd say it took off in the
>>> second half of '95 in my area anyway. If I remember correctly, by '96
>>> or '97, I was dual booting a RH linux version with Win95.
>>
>> Sounds about right. I had to pull a very old copy of the GNU testament
>> of the shelf. 1994. I was messing with Win 3.11 and a Linux [no idea
>> what. I remember something about Walnut Creek?] on a 486 DX2. I think
>> you are right win 95 was my first Internet experience, on a P75, but I
>> vaguely remember using a DOS browser Arachne, shortly before or after,
>> canny remember.
>>
>> Not sure you would call that the time the Internet took off though. It
>> was still pretty geeky. I remember how excited I was the first time I
>> used a BBS. Funny.
>>
>
> Heh, I had Win 3.0 in 1990.

I woz networking spectrums over RS232 in 84/85'. I woz playing with ZX80's
and an early MAC before that. I invented the abacus in a previous life.
What's your point?

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From: za kAT on
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:35:55 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:

> za kAT <zakAT(a)super-secret-IPaddress.invalid> wrote in news:hvbfmu$g63$1
> @news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC), Bear Bottoms wrote:
>>
>>> Clue, it ain't gonna happen with any current distros.
>>
>> So you think Chrome OS and Chromium OS will be failures?
>>
>
> No. Well maybe Chromium OS. I said current distros dingbat. ChromeOS
> isn't really current yet.

'isn't really' eh?

Chromium OS is listed at distrowatch.

http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#otheros

You can download the source code.

Pretty much every distro isn't a done deal.

We are of course hanging on you giving the word....

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