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From: Terry Bourne on 24 Sep 2009 04:54 Doug I well remember the pain and mental contortions I went through when first trying to learn VO using South Seas. And also the time it took to get to a stage where I was able to produce useful (chargeable) programs with VO. Whilst any learning exercise is valuable, I suggest that learning VO would not be the quickest way to gain proficiency in current programming techniques/ program design. My advice would be go straight to Vulcan and ..Net. Although you may have paid for VO, that cost will be insignificant when compared to the value of the time you spend learning it. VO with its automatic memory management greatly simplified things at the time - but all that has been overtaken by events. .Net is the future with C++ for those cases where the .Net overheads are unacceptable. Personally, I can see no reason to recommend the learning route you appear to be taking. Go to Vulcan / .Net. I'd be interested to know what others here think. Terry "DougMZA" <doug.mitchell.za(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:c0c8f4a3-500a-423e-b711-a81c13f03a17(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... > Does anybody know where to get CA's ODBC drivers? I purchased CAVO 2.8 > a week back but no ODBC drivers. I am busy with the SOUTH SEAS > ADVENTURES tutorial and am stuck because of this.
From: Ginny Caughey on 24 Sep 2009 07:34 Terry, I agree with you. I have been writing all new code in .NET for quite a few years now and I only write VO code in a legacy app when it is much less expensive to make very minor changes instead of writing a .NET shim. Whenever a legacy VO app has needed major revisions, I've found it works best to just rewrite the app using .NET and Visual Studio. It's perhaps more work initially, but ultimately a better investment in time than writing more VO code because all future maintenance is much easier and could be done by a ..NET contractor, which is easy to find. I can envision a scenario where somebody would need to learn VO though - if he's been hired to maintain a legacy VO app. But starting with the legacy app would be the approach I'd advise for learning along with making small experiments to test things out. In the absence of such a legacy app, I certainly wouldn't recommend learning VO or using VO for new work. -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com "Terry Bourne" <te.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message news:6amdnd1TG8xtribXnZ2dnUVZ8jKdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Doug > > I well remember the pain and mental contortions I went through when first > trying to learn VO using South Seas. And also the time it took to get to a > stage where I was able to produce useful (chargeable) programs with VO. > > Whilst any learning exercise is valuable, I suggest that learning VO would > not be the quickest way to gain proficiency in current programming > techniques/ program design. My advice would be go straight to Vulcan and > .Net. > > Although you may have paid for VO, that cost will be insignificant when > compared to the value of the time you spend learning it. > > VO with its automatic memory management greatly simplified things at the > time - but all that has been overtaken by events. .Net is the future with > C++ for those cases where the .Net overheads are unacceptable. > > Personally, I can see no reason to recommend the learning route you appear > to be taking. Go to Vulcan / .Net. > > I'd be interested to know what others here think. > > Terry > > > "DougMZA" <doug.mitchell.za(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:c0c8f4a3-500a-423e-b711-a81c13f03a17(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... >> Does anybody know where to get CA's ODBC drivers? I purchased CAVO 2.8 >> a week back but no ODBC drivers. I am busy with the SOUTH SEAS >> ADVENTURES tutorial and am stuck because of this. >
From: Terry Bourne on 24 Sep 2009 09:54 Ginny Sorry - your response came up here almost as cryptic as South Seas! Couldn't read. Terry "Terry Bourne" <terry.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message news:6amdnd1TG8xtribXnZ2dnUVZ8jKdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Doug > > I well remember the pain and mental contortions I went through when first > trying to learn VO using South Seas. And also the time it took to get to a > stage where I was able to produce useful (chargeable) programs with VO. > > Whilst any learning exercise is valuable, I suggest that learning VO would > not be the quickest way to gain proficiency in current programming > techniques/ program design. My advice would be go straight to Vulcan and > .Net. > > Although you may have paid for VO, that cost will be insignificant when > compared to the value of the time you spend learning it. > > VO with its automatic memory management greatly simplified things at the > time - but all that has been overtaken by events. .Net is the future with > C++ for those cases where the .Net overheads are unacceptable. > > Personally, I can see no reason to recommend the learning route you appear > to be taking. Go to Vulcan / .Net. > > I'd be interested to know what others here think. > > Terry > > > "DougMZA" <doug.mitchell.za(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:c0c8f4a3-500a-423e-b711-a81c13f03a17(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... >> Does anybody know where to get CA's ODBC drivers? I purchased CAVO 2.8 >> a week back but no ODBC drivers. I am busy with the SOUTH SEAS >> ADVENTURES tutorial and am stuck because of this. >
From: Ginny Caughey on 24 Sep 2009 10:28 Here's my reply again: Terry, I agree with you. I have been writing all new code in .NET for quite a few years now and I only write VO code in a legacy app when it is much less expensive to make very minor changes instead of writing a .NET shim. Whenever a legacy VO app has needed major revisions, I've found it works best to just rewrite the app using .NET and Visual Studio. It's perhaps more work initially, but ultimately a better investment in time than writing more VO code because all future maintenance is much easier and could be done by a ..NET contractor, which is easy to find. I can envision a scenario where somebody would need to learn VO though - if he's been hired to maintain a legacy VO app. But starting with the legacy app would be the approach I'd advise for learning along with making small experiments to test things out. In the absence of such a legacy app, I certainly wouldn't recommend learning VO or using VO for new work. -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com "Terry Bourne" <te.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message news:3rSdnRF606GP5ybXnZ2dnUVZ8jGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > Ginny > > Sorry - your response came up here almost as cryptic as South Seas! > Couldn't read. > > Terry > > "Terry Bourne" <terry.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6amdnd1TG8xtribXnZ2dnUVZ8jKdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> Doug >> >> I well remember the pain and mental contortions I went through when first >> trying to learn VO using South Seas. And also the time it took to get to >> a stage where I was able to produce useful (chargeable) programs with VO. >> >> Whilst any learning exercise is valuable, I suggest that learning VO >> would not be the quickest way to gain proficiency in current programming >> techniques/ program design. My advice would be go straight to Vulcan and >> .Net. >> >> Although you may have paid for VO, that cost will be insignificant when >> compared to the value of the time you spend learning it. >> >> VO with its automatic memory management greatly simplified things at the >> time - but all that has been overtaken by events. .Net is the future with >> C++ for those cases where the .Net overheads are unacceptable. >> >> Personally, I can see no reason to recommend the learning route you >> appear to be taking. Go to Vulcan / .Net. >> >> I'd be interested to know what others here think. >> >> Terry >> >> >> "DougMZA" <doug.mitchell.za(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:c0c8f4a3-500a-423e-b711-a81c13f03a17(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... >>> Does anybody know where to get CA's ODBC drivers? I purchased CAVO 2.8 >>> a week back but no ODBC drivers. I am busy with the SOUTH SEAS >>> ADVENTURES tutorial and am stuck because of this. >> >
From: Terry Bourne on 24 Sep 2009 11:23
Thanks Ginny - came through OK that time Terry "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> wrote in message news:0104001c$0$11313$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Here's my reply again: > > Terry, > > I agree with you. I have been writing all new code in .NET for quite a few > years now and I only write VO code in a legacy app when it is much less > expensive to make very minor changes instead of writing a .NET shim. > Whenever a legacy VO app has needed major revisions, I've found it works > best to just rewrite the app using .NET and Visual Studio. It's perhaps > more > work initially, but ultimately a better investment in time than writing > more > VO code because all future maintenance is much easier and could be done by > a > .NET contractor, which is easy to find. > > I can envision a scenario where somebody would need to learn VO though - > if > he's been hired to maintain a legacy VO app. But starting with the legacy > app would be the approach I'd advise for learning along with making small > experiments to test things out. In the absence of such a legacy app, I > certainly wouldn't recommend learning VO or using VO for new work. > > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > > > > > "Terry Bourne" <te.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message > news:3rSdnRF606GP5ybXnZ2dnUVZ8jGdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >> Ginny >> >> Sorry - your response came up here almost as cryptic as South Seas! >> Couldn't read. >> >> Terry >> >> "Terry Bourne" <terry.bourne(a)ringwayinfosys.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:6amdnd1TG8xtribXnZ2dnUVZ8jKdnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> Doug >>> >>> I well remember the pain and mental contortions I went through when >>> first trying to learn VO using South Seas. And also the time it took to >>> get to a stage where I was able to produce useful (chargeable) programs >>> with VO. >>> >>> Whilst any learning exercise is valuable, I suggest that learning VO >>> would not be the quickest way to gain proficiency in current programming >>> techniques/ program design. My advice would be go straight to Vulcan and >>> .Net. >>> >>> Although you may have paid for VO, that cost will be insignificant when >>> compared to the value of the time you spend learning it. >>> >>> VO with its automatic memory management greatly simplified things at the >>> time - but all that has been overtaken by events. .Net is the future >>> with C++ for those cases where the .Net overheads are unacceptable. >>> >>> Personally, I can see no reason to recommend the learning route you >>> appear to be taking. Go to Vulcan / .Net. >>> >>> I'd be interested to know what others here think. >>> >>> Terry >>> >>> >>> "DougMZA" <doug.mitchell.za(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:c0c8f4a3-500a-423e-b711-a81c13f03a17(a)j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... >>>> Does anybody know where to get CA's ODBC drivers? I purchased CAVO 2.8 >>>> a week back but no ODBC drivers. I am busy with the SOUTH SEAS >>>> ADVENTURES tutorial and am stuck because of this. >>> >> |