From: richard.townsendrose on 26 Sep 2009 05:23 Hi all I have to agree with the state of IT graduates ... I think that many of "us lot" like me learned to use pc's in early DOS days. One had to actually think whuch interrupts were going to be used by which apps and associated hardware such as autocad and pointing devices .... dos 3.3 was great. and peter norton was the man who unscrambled it all. early windows was simply unusable for big apps. we used to have a memory checker running the whole time ... to close things BEFORE the crash. that was when a table misclosed was usually wrecked. it is all a bit easier now.... on to Vulcan then ... seems like there IS a need for it, but the question I ask is what am i going to get that i dont have already. what is the COMMERCIAL driver ... what is the equation which says for all the effort i have to put in i am going to get more cash ... to my mind all spare cash is going into marketing ... Richard
From: Paul Piko on 26 Sep 2009 06:04 Richard, > on to Vulcan then ... seems like there IS a need for it, but the > question I ask is what am i going to get that i dont have already. > what is the COMMERCIAL driver ... what is the equation which says for > all the effort i have to put in i am going to get more cash ... to my > mind all spare cash is going into marketing ... Phil Hepburn recently talked about what he and his clients get out of using Vulcan: http://www.govulcan.net/userexperiences Paul
From: Terry Bourne on 26 Sep 2009 14:09 Richard > I ask is what am i going to get that i dont have already. > what is the COMMERCIAL driver ... Who knows - but what I would say is that the basic technologies and forging ahead at an unprecedented rate. ..Net gives the ability to mix and match languages and as a result we could expect to see Apps developed in Vulcan, say, forming a highly significant section of future applications meeting a far broader range of requirements than hitherto. Also we have an explosion of MultiCore devices on the desk-top - users will be placing an ever increasing pressure on developers to make positive use of the power they offer. IMO it will only be those developers that move to dot Net who will be able to beneficially and commercially exploit the power of such devices. Why? Simply because the necessary ease-of-use tooling will become available in the .Net world. If you like thinking interrupts - get used to thinking them again! They haven't gone away. I am hoping the London and SE VOUG will be able to address much of this in the future - Why not join us? Terry "richard.townsendrose" <richard.townsendrose(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:3700dfb8-1357-4116-b585-e2797ba22a00(a)m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... > Hi all > > I have to agree with the state of IT graduates ... I think that many > of "us lot" like me learned to use pc's in early DOS days. One had to > actually think whuch interrupts were going to be used by which apps > and associated hardware such as autocad and pointing devices .... dos > 3.3 was great. and peter norton was the man who unscrambled it all. > > early windows was simply unusable for big apps. we used to have a > memory checker running the whole time ... to close things BEFORE the > crash. that was when a table misclosed was usually wrecked. > > it is all a bit easier now.... > > on to Vulcan then ... seems like there IS a need for it, but the > question I ask is what am i going to get that i dont have already. > what is the COMMERCIAL driver ... what is the equation which says for > all the effort i have to put in i am going to get more cash ... to my > mind all spare cash is going into marketing ... > > Richard >
From: Chris Pyrgas on 28 Sep 2009 06:36 Hi John, > I have seen IT graduates who could not give you the code for the simplest > function like counting the number of characters in a string. It is a far > cry from the days when I started and it is now so pathetic that most IT > diplomas are not worth the paper they are printed on and the graduates are > not worth interviewing. SO SAD !!! I had the impression this was happening only in our part of the world! Nice to hear we're not alone :-) cheers, Chris
From: DougMZA on 1 Oct 2009 10:02
Hi All Thanks for all your input / comments - much appreciated. Doug. |