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From: Allen on 29 Mar 2010 09:38 Robert Spanjaard wrote: > I thought I'd be happy if I could spot _one_ deer. I never expected > this. :-) > > http://www.arumes.com/temp/CRW_5204.jpg > Another deer story-- When LBJ had been President for a short time, CBS decided to do a documentary on the Texas Hill Country, concentrating on the small part that LBJ haled from. One of their cameramen rushed back to Austin in the middle of the project, went to KTBC (owned by LBJ) and said "Quick! Process this film! I've got pictures of thousands of deer!" (This was before videotape.) They processed it and sure enough he had gotten pictures of thousands of--goats. Allen
From: David Ruether on 29 Mar 2010 11:45 "Ken Walls" <kwalls(a)spamblocked.com> wrote in message news:vrf0r5t2a0ch6feoqceej5kn621ie4ieo4(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:23:14 -0400, rwalker <rwalker(a)despammed.com> wrote: >>On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:03:09 +0200, Robert Spanjaard >><spamtrap(a)arumes.com> wrote: >>> National Park Hoge Veluwe, Netherlands. >>> http://maps.google.com/?ll=52.087734,5.83065&spn=0.082484,0.222988&t=h&z=13 >>In keeping with the theme of this thread, here is a photo I took a >>couple weeks ago with an old Brownie Hawkeye using Kodak Portra VC2: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/51646689(a)N00/4472600014/ Ah, the white deer near here...;-) > While it's not uncommon to have 40+ deer amble by the edge of my woods > every sunset-lit evening, and have tons of images of them, I prefer > something a little more artistic, > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2757/4471900815_0f3b21b853_o.jpg > or humorous. > Like this one taken through my picture-window last winter, > http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4471900817_b617b850b8_o.jpg > I was showing it everyone's usenet-posted crapshots. NEAT! And, NEAT! 8^) --DR
From: Paul Furman on 30 Mar 2010 23:44 Allen wrote: > rwalker wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:43:48 +0100, Robert Spanjaard >> <spamtrap(a)arumes.com> wrote: >> >>> I thought I'd be happy if I could spot _one_ deer. I never expected >>> this. :-) >>> >>> http://www.arumes.com/temp/CRW_5204.jpg >> >> >> Where is this if you don't mind? I've seen this kind of thing in >> upstate New York where I live, but not often that many at once. > Reminds me of my back yard at times. I live in Austin TX in an area > labeled "Central City" by the real estate people, and it's not uncommon > to see as many as eight whitetails at once in our yard. Many of them > were born in our yard and the does keep returned to what we call the > "deer neonatal center" to bear their fawns. A nuisance, but beautiful > creatures. All the nurseries and garden shops have lists of what they > won't eat. Most herbs, such as rosemary and basil, are on the lists, but > surprisingly they don't eat irises. Iris are poisonous AFAIK. They will eat various poisonous plants though, when hungry. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam
From: David Ruether on 31 Mar 2010 13:41 "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message news:hooe3o$4v$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu... > "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message news:4baf8e37$1$31297$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >> "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message news:honvne$6ja$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu... >>> I've lived in some purdy nice areas (like Seattle, San Francisco, Phoenix, >>> Norman OK, Miami) and have traveled the west much and have been in >>> 48 of the 50 states, but I kept returning to Ithaca for its wonderful "compact" scenery. There are "zillions" of waterfalls >>> (including the highest in the NE, just up the road from me), glens, gorges, forests, rolling hills and fields, and two great >>> schools in this very small city, with most things within 5-10 minute drive from my house, including the four NY State Parks here >>> and the 25 Ithaca city parks, including a very large city-owned natural area. Add to this two large bird sanctuaries, Cornell's >>> large numbers of land holdings, plantations, and flower gardens open to the public, and it is no wonder I kept coming back here >>> and finally stayed (even with the often gruesome weather.......;-). >>> --DR >> We are planning about a one week drive towards the end on April. I would really appreciate it if you could pinpoint some of those >> areas near Cornell, other than Watkins Glen. The falls need to be reasonably close to the parking area as my wife has a walking >> issue. >> >> TIA >> -- >> Peter > Ah, if you want company, maybe I can serve as a guide (my email > is on my web site, at www.donferrario.com/ruether, and I can give > you a 'phone number). A partial list... [I have modified, clarified, and added to what I wrote earlier...] Ah, if you want company, maybe I can serve as a guide (my email is on my web site, at www.donferrario.com/ruether, and I can give you a 'phone number). A partial list is here , including some areas meaningful or accessible only in summer through mid fall... --Taughannock Falls overlook (about 7 miles north of Ithaca, on Rt.89, turning left on the "slow Y" just after the bridge - watch for the large parking area at the top of the hill), and there is also a Cayuga Lake beach there (turn right immediately after crossing the bridge on Rt.89 after entering the park). The walk in at the bottom (the parking is left off Rt.89 a little before the bridge) is about 1.5 miles (flat) round trip, and quite a sight as you round a bend, exit the woods, start over a foot bridge and suddenly before you is a 215' falls. DO NOT CROSS THE STONE BARRIERS!!! You can get close enough to the falls staying behind the barriers to get quite wet on most days...;-) Rock falls are common (on average, you may hear about two minor ones per hour here), and I saw a family of four get hit by a 1/2-car size rock that slipped out of the cliff wall near the top of the falls. NOT NICE!!! Less well known is a short drive left going out of the overlook parking lot and driving toward Rt.96 and Trumansburg, where you turn left at the "T", cross the stone bridge there, then park in the lot on the left at the other side of the bridge. A short walk takes you up onto an old railroad bridge above another high falls, and there is a good view down the gorge. The gorge floor trail and railroad bridge trail are generally open all year, but other trails may not be open except in summer. For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/taughannock.html. --Buttermilk Falls State Park is at the city line, left from Rt.13 going south. You can see a large "sloping" falls from a car, or a short walk from the parking area (do not attempt to climb the trail beside the falls unless you have more energy than I do! ;-). If you go back out to Rt.13 and turn again south, there is almost immediately a left turn, also to Buttermilk Park (the upper part). Go to the eventual "T" corner (passing earlier the Lick Brook reserve and falls on a side turn), turn left, and then right just after the end of the bridge at the bottom of the hill. Walking back to the road and recrossing the bridge, there is a trail on the downstream side with many falls along it. A trail on the other side of the road goes through a nice woods, and eventually to a picnic area, a falls, and a lake. I just thought - trails often open here quite late due to trail conditions (rock falls, need to check for loose overhanging rocks, etc. (DO NOT assume that cliff edges are safe either above or from below - the rock here crumbles easily!!!) For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/taughannock.html. --Robert Treman State Park is south of Ithaca a short way further along 13, then right on a "slow Y" onto Rt.327. The lower entrance is almost immediately on the left, where there is a bit of woods and a short trail leading from the main parking lot to an "apron" falls and a swimming area . From either side of the parking lot trails lead up the L - O - N - G UPHILL gorge (this is not recommended as the best use of time...). The upper part of the park (sometimes called "Enfield") is reached by going out to Rt.327, turning left, and driving uphill for what seems like forever (look back, the view is nice). You eventually start downhill to the upper entrance to the park. An old mill is by the parking lot at the lot at the end of the entry road. The trails are closed until late (I've seen ice in the gorge as late as June...), but if you are there in the summer, go to the far right end of the parking lot, cross the small stone bridge, and STOP! ;-) The sign there will mislead you (there is a short, but moderately strenuous, loop trail going over a bridge near the bottom of a 160' Lucifer Falls that joins the long loop trail from below). If you go straight ahead, it is a CLIMB to get to one overlook (a good, but...), and then 200 steps straight down the cliff beyond, only to climb up to where you can get much more easily by going left at the sign and following a little, unassuming stream that does something remarkable. It turns toward a cliff and cuts through it, dropping with several falls, leading you to the head of the 160 footer. Go until YOU SEE NO MORE WATER, then turn back and return the same way (you will get great side views of the tall falls). DO NOT TAKE the Red Pine trail - it is steep enough to be difficult in either direction. On the return road trip, one of those two 10mph right-angle bend signs near the end after a long downhill trip really means 10mph! For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/treman.html. --Cascadilla Glen (the trail is being reconstructed now, so it is closed) has many nice falls in it (it goes from the intersection of University, Linn, and Court Streets by the white church in downtown Ithaca up to College Town by the Cornell Performing Arts Center and the Cornell campus (a beautiful place to wander around, with a fine museum at the edge of campus by the Fall Creek Gorge on the other side of the campus). The interiors of Sage Chapel, the large atrium of the Sage business school, the A. D. White library in the library that has the bell tower attached, the library in the law school, and the dining hall in Risley dorm are interesting, and lunch is available at most dining halls for under $11. Ask about parking at the entry booths - Cornell tickets are expensive, and the available lots are hard to find without a map (but a few are free). For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/cascadilla.html. --Ithaca Falls is the last falls in Fall Creek Gorge, and is about 125' square - and MOST impressive after a couple of days of heavy rain (the water shoots over it horizontally before dropping!). When the water is not too high, it is a short, fairly easy walk to the falls (you can walk up to within a few feet of it, but you will get soaked ;-), or you can view it from the road bridge opposite the high school. For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/ithacafalls.html. --There is a small free lot next to the high suspension bridge opposite the Johnson Museum (and a pay meters in front of that, above the other bridge entrance). The Asia section of the museum has spectacular views up the lake, and you can move around the large windows on that floor and see in every direction. If you are up to it, the door to the bell tower opens about 20 minutes before the bells play (BRING EARPLUGS if you go up under the bells! They are LOUD!!!!! But, the views are spectacular!). Times and info are at http://chimes.cornell.edu/ - and it is worth being on campus near the tower during the playing, even if you don't make the climb (and there is still an interesting view from near the tower toward the town and Cayuga Lake). A bit more is here -- http://www.cornell.edu/visiting/ithaca/. --Further upstream is a road bridge with a Payomatic parking lot for access to Beebe Lake, the woods, and the foot bridge in front of a dam and falls. Beyond by road is the plantations area, herb garden, flower garden, rhododendron hill, and antique plants area (all free, with free parking). See for more -- http://www.cornellplantations.org. --Beyond that are wildflower trails on the hills and along the water below, woods trails, the Cornell Plantations with specimen shrubs and trees, etc, on out to farms in the country, the Geneva station, the Weill-Cornell Medical College in NYC, Shoals Marine Lab in Maine, a part in London, Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico (Never did get sent there to photograph that, darn! But I did get to photograph other interesting things along the way...;-), and Mars, with the rovers...;-) Oops! These last aren't close to Ithaca...;-) As you probably know, this can be useful - http://maps.google.com/. Later in the year would be better for a visit, as in July, but... --One more: if you drive north on Rt.13 beyond the top of the hill and the Ithaca Mall, and just past the airport turn, there is a turn on the right for "Sapsucker Woods", with a building with chairs and observation 'scopes looking out onto the pond, and nice, well-maintained trails through the woods - with boardwalks over the swampy areas. Even short walks are nice, like the one to the left of the building entrance (it returns to the other side of the building after circling the large pond), and the one from the small parking area on the left a little further up the road (turn left at the "T" unless you want to make the loop). BTW, the Cornell Lab of Ornithology has the world's largest archive of bird and animal sounds (and, well, heck - its Museum of Vertebrates there has about 1,000,000 fish, 45,000 birds, 3,200 eggs, and 15,000 specimens each of mammals, reptiles, and amphibians. More is at -- http://www.birds.cornell.edu/about/BuildingAndSanctuary/index.html. --North of Ithaca is the old Seneca Army Depot, with the largest herd of white deer in the world (often seen near the fence). The best views are along Rt.96A straight through Ovid (turning right in Ovid continues north on Rt.96) along Seneca Lake toward Sampson State Park. For a description, see -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_White_Deer. --Oops, almost forgot the Ithaca Farmers Market (on the Inlet, with nearby parking). Good country acoustic music, friendly people, fresh local produce. See - www.ithacamarket.com/ifm-fun-stuff/photo-gallery/ for photos, www.ithacamarket.com/ for times, and "ithaca farmers market" on http:maps.google.com for maps and directions. As you know, there is Watkins Glen State Park (a beautiful glen with many falls, including two you walk under on the trail, and sometimes the walls "cup" nearly together above you) a beautiful 1/2 hour drive from Ithaca http://nyfalls.com/watkinsglensp.html), Letchworth State Park, also west of Ithaca, with large waterfalls (http://nyfalls.com/letchworth-main.html), and of course, the very large Niagara Falls, further west (http://nyfalls.com/niagara/niagara-main.html). Less well known are the many other falls near here, including one very high one north on Rt.13. There is even a small falls with an eternal flame behind it. BTW, you can access more photos of NYS waterfalls here -- http://www.nyfalls.com/gmap.html (click on the "balloons" to find out what they mark). Have fun! --DR
From: Peter on 1 Apr 2010 21:06
"David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message news:hp01fv$ak4$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu... > > "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message > news:hooe3o$4v$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu... >> "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote in message >> news:4baf8e37$1$31297$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com... >>> "David Ruether" <d_ruether(a)thotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:honvne$6ja$1(a)ruby.cit.cornell.edu... > >>>> I've lived in some purdy nice areas (like Seattle, San Francisco, >>>> Phoenix, >>>> Norman OK, Miami) and have traveled the west much and have been in >>>> 48 of the 50 states, but I kept returning to Ithaca for its wonderful >>>> "compact" scenery. There are "zillions" of waterfalls (including the >>>> highest in the NE, just up the road from me), glens, gorges, forests, >>>> rolling hills and fields, and two great schools in this very small >>>> city, with most things within 5-10 minute drive from my house, >>>> including the four NY State Parks here and the 25 Ithaca city parks, >>>> including a very large city-owned natural area. Add to this two large >>>> bird sanctuaries, Cornell's large numbers of land holdings, >>>> plantations, and flower gardens open to the public, and it is no wonder >>>> I kept coming back here and finally stayed (even with the often >>>> gruesome weather.......;-). >>>> --DR > >>> We are planning about a one week drive towards the end on April. I would >>> really appreciate it if you could pinpoint some of those areas near >>> Cornell, other than Watkins Glen. The falls need to be reasonably close >>> to the parking area as my wife has a walking issue. >>> >>> TIA >>> -- >>> Peter > >> Ah, if you want company, maybe I can serve as a guide (my email >> is on my web site, at www.donferrario.com/ruether, and I can give >> you a 'phone number). A partial list... > > [I have modified, clarified, and added to what I wrote earlier...] > > Ah, if you want company, maybe I can serve as a guide (my email > is on my web site, at www.donferrario.com/ruether, and I can give > you a 'phone number). A partial list is here , including some areas > meaningful or accessible only in summer through mid fall... > --Taughannock Falls overlook (about 7 miles north of Ithaca, on > Rt.89, turning left on the "slow Y" just after the bridge - watch for the > large parking area at the top of the hill), and there is also a Cayuga > Lake beach there (turn right immediately after crossing the bridge on > Rt.89 after entering the park). The walk in at the bottom (the parking > is left off Rt.89 a little before the bridge) is about 1.5 miles (flat) > round > trip, and quite a sight as you round a bend, exit the woods, start over > a foot bridge and suddenly before you is a 215' falls. DO NOT CROSS > THE STONE BARRIERS!!! You can get close enough to the falls > staying behind the barriers to get quite wet on most days...;-) Rock > falls are common (on average, you may hear about two minor ones > per hour here), and I saw a family of four get hit by a 1/2-car size rock > that slipped out of the cliff wall near the top of the falls. NOT NICE!!! > Less well known is a short drive left going out of the overlook parking > lot and driving toward Rt.96 and Trumansburg, where you turn left at > the "T", cross the stone bridge there, then park in the lot on the left at > the other side of the bridge. A short walk takes you up onto an old > railroad bridge above another high falls, and there is a good view down > the gorge. The gorge floor trail and railroad bridge trail are generally > open all year, but other trails may not be open except in summer. > For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/taughannock.html. > --Buttermilk Falls State Park is at the city line, left from Rt.13 going > south. You can see a large "sloping" falls from a car, or a short walk > from the parking area (do not attempt to climb the trail beside the > falls unless you have more energy than I do! ;-). If you go back out to > Rt.13 and turn again south, there is almost immediately a left turn, > also to Buttermilk Park (the upper part). Go to the eventual "T" corner > (passing earlier the Lick Brook reserve and falls on a side turn), turn > left, and then right just after the end of the bridge at the bottom of the > hill. Walking back to the road and recrossing the bridge, there is a trail > on the downstream side with many falls along it. A trail on the other > side of the road goes through a nice woods, and eventually to a picnic > area, a falls, and a lake. I just thought - trails often open here quite > late > due to trail conditions (rock falls, need to check for loose overhanging > rocks, etc. (DO NOT assume that cliff edges are safe either above or > from below - the rock here crumbles easily!!!) For photos, see -- > http://nyfalls.com/taughannock.html. > --Robert Treman State Park is south of Ithaca a short way further > along 13, then right on a "slow Y" onto Rt.327. The lower entrance > is almost immediately on the left, where there is a bit of woods and > a short trail leading from the main parking lot to an "apron" falls and > a swimming area . From either side of the parking lot trails lead up > the L - O - N - G UPHILL gorge (this is not recommended as > the best use of time...). The upper part of the park (sometimes called > "Enfield") is reached by going out to Rt.327, turning left, and driving > uphill for what seems like forever (look back, the view is nice). You > eventually start downhill to the upper entrance to the park. An old > mill is by the parking lot at the lot at the end of the entry road. The > trails are closed until late (I've seen ice in the gorge as late as > June...), > but if you are there in the summer, go to the far right end of the parking > lot, cross the small stone bridge, and STOP! ;-) The sign there will > mislead you (there is a short, but moderately strenuous, loop trail going > over a bridge near the bottom of a 160' Lucifer Falls that joins the long > loop trail from below). If you go straight ahead, it is a CLIMB to get > to one overlook (a good, but...), and then 200 steps straight down the > cliff beyond, only to climb up to where you can get much more easily > by going left at the sign and following a little, unassuming stream that > does something remarkable. It turns toward a cliff and cuts through it, > dropping with several falls, leading you to the head of the 160 footer. > Go until YOU SEE NO MORE WATER, then turn back and return > the same way (you will get great side views of the tall falls). DO NOT > TAKE the Red Pine trail - it is steep enough to be difficult in either > direction. On the return road trip, one of those two 10mph right-angle > bend signs near the end after a long downhill trip really means 10mph! > For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/treman.html. > --Cascadilla Glen (the trail is being reconstructed now, so it is closed) > has many nice falls in it (it goes from the intersection of University, > Linn, > and Court Streets by the white church in downtown Ithaca up to College > Town by the Cornell Performing Arts Center and the Cornell campus > (a beautiful place to wander around, with a fine museum at the edge of > campus by the Fall Creek Gorge on the other side of the campus). The > interiors of Sage Chapel, the large atrium of the Sage business school, > the A. D. White library in the library that has the bell tower attached, > the library in the law school, and the dining hall in Risley dorm are > interesting, and lunch is available at most dining halls for under $11. > Ask about parking at the entry booths - Cornell tickets are expensive, > and the available lots are hard to find without a map (but a few are > free). > For photos, see -- http://nyfalls.com/cascadilla.html. > --Ithaca Falls is the last falls in Fall Creek Gorge, and is about 125' > square - and MOST impressive after a couple of days of heavy rain > (the water shoots over it horizontally before dropping!). When the water > is not too high, it is a short, fairly easy walk to the falls (you can > walk up > to within a few feet of it, but you will get soaked ;-), or you can view > it > from the road bridge opposite the high school. For photos, see -- > http://nyfalls.com/ithacafalls.html. > --There is a small free lot next to the high suspension bridge opposite > the > Johnson Museum (and a pay meters in front of that, above the other > bridge entrance). The Asia section of the museum has spectacular views > up the lake, and you can move around the large windows on that floor > and see in every direction. If you are up to it, the door to the bell > tower > opens about 20 minutes before the bells play (BRING EARPLUGS > if you go up under the bells! They are LOUD!!!!! But, the views are > spectacular!). Times and info are at http://chimes.cornell.edu/ - and it > is worth being on campus near the tower during the playing, even if you > don't make the climb (and there is still an interesting view from near > the tower toward the town and Cayuga Lake). A bit more is here -- > http://www.cornell.edu/visiting/ithaca/. > --Further upstream is a road bridge with a Payomatic parking lot for > access to Beebe Lake, the woods, and the foot bridge in front of a > dam and falls. Beyond by road is the plantations area, herb garden, > flower garden, rhododendron hill, and antique plants area (all free, > with free parking). See for more -- http://www.cornellplantations.org. > --Beyond that are wildflower trails on the hills and along the water > below, > woods trails, the Cornell Plantations with specimen shrubs and trees, > etc, on out to farms in the country, the Geneva station, the Weill-Cornell > Medical College in NYC, Shoals Marine Lab in Maine, a part in London, > Arecibo radio telescope in Puerto Rico (Never did get sent there to > photograph that, darn! But I did get to photograph other interesting > things > along the way...;-), and Mars, with the rovers...;-) Oops! These last > aren't close to Ithaca...;-) As you probably know, this can be useful - > http://maps.google.com/. Later in the year would be better for a visit, > as in July, but... > --One more: if you drive north on Rt.13 beyond the top of the hill and > the Ithaca Mall, and just past the airport turn, there is a turn on the > right for "Sapsucker Woods", with a building with chairs and observation > 'scopes looking out onto the pond, and nice, well-maintained trails > through the woods - with boardwalks over the swampy areas. Even > short walks are nice, like the one to the left of the building entrance > (it > returns to the other side of the building after circling the large pond), > and the one from the small parking area on the left a little further up > the > road (turn left at the "T" unless you want to make the loop). BTW, > the Cornell Lab of Ornithology has the world's largest archive of bird > and animal sounds (and, well, heck - its Museum of Vertebrates there > has about 1,000,000 fish, 45,000 birds, 3,200 eggs, and 15,000 > specimens each of mammals, reptiles, and amphibians. More is at -- > http://www.birds.cornell.edu/about/BuildingAndSanctuary/index.html. > --North of Ithaca is the old Seneca Army Depot, with the largest herd > of white deer in the world (often seen near the fence). The best views > are along Rt.96A straight through Ovid (turning right in Ovid > continues north on Rt.96) along Seneca Lake toward Sampson State > Park. For a description, see -- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_White_Deer. > --Oops, almost forgot the Ithaca Farmers Market (on the Inlet, with > nearby parking). Good country acoustic music, friendly people, fresh > local produce. See - www.ithacamarket.com/ifm-fun-stuff/photo-gallery/ > for photos, www.ithacamarket.com/ for times, and "ithaca farmers > market" on http:maps.google.com for maps and directions. > > As you know, there is Watkins Glen State Park (a beautiful glen with > many falls, including two you walk under on the trail, and sometimes > the walls "cup" nearly together above you) a beautiful 1/2 hour drive > from Ithaca http://nyfalls.com/watkinsglensp.html), Letchworth State > Park, also west of Ithaca, with large waterfalls > (http://nyfalls.com/letchworth-main.html), and of course, the very large > Niagara Falls, further west > (http://nyfalls.com/niagara/niagara-main.html). > Less well known are the many other falls near here, including one very > high one north on Rt.13. There is even a small falls with an eternal > flame behind it. BTW, you can access more photos of NYS > waterfalls here -- http://www.nyfalls.com/gmap.html (click on the > "balloons" to find out what they mark). > > Have fun! > --DR thanks for your reply. Right now I am working about 80 hrs a week and am completely zombified. I will get back to you after the 15th, -- Peter |