From: measekite on


Frank wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
> So now you have the answer to my wierd behavior...I'm drunk again.
>
> Frank
From: Frank on
measekite wrote:

So now you have the real, truthful answer to my weird, psychotic
behavior...yep...I'm drunk again and still posting false information
about ink and printers that I know absolutely nothing about.
How weird is that huh?
But that's what we drunk morons do. :-)

measekit

From: Irwin Peckinloomer on
In article <pwCve.87$0V3.62(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
inkystinky(a)oem.com says...
>
>
> Irwin Peckinloomer wrote:
>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Wrong. You should read more & write less. Definitely write less!
> >>>
>
inkystinky(a)oem.com says...
>

> You are are real idiot.
>
Fortunately, the staff does not listen to the opinions of the inmates.
From: Arthur Entlich on
It's stretching things. Both the Kodak example and the paper dust.

Most deflection of nozzles and blockage are from the same cause, ... ink
build up in the wrong places.

Art

Shooter wrote:

> My only point was to highlight that paper can be the cause of head blocking,
> and in reply to the remark made by measekite instead I have had to go into
> chapter and verse. There is also another explanation for paper clogging
> heads, in that some papers loose small fibres which attach to the underside
> of the head and that also will give the same deflective firing or if you
> like head block, I have known cheap plain paper cause this. I am also sure
> there are other examples out there.
>
>
> "Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:Dlwve.1804250$Xk.204128(a)pd7tw3no...
>
>>OK, now I see where you are "headed" with this. It is true that Kodak
>>uses swellable polymer surface on some of their papers. Swellable
>>polymer is designed to give better permanence to dye inks, so the paper
>>is definitely inappropriate for pigment colorant inks. However, in
>>general, the ink shouldn't be piling up enough to hit the head unless
>>the head has a build up of ink residue on it already.
>>
>>I will give this disclaimer... I haven't studied a 2200 enough to know
>>if for some reason Epson places the heads much closer to the paper
>>surface than most other Epson printers. Normally, with a clean head,
>>ink should not be ending up back on the head surface even if the ink
>>doesn't adsorb into the paper.
>>
>>Art
>>
>>
>>Shooter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>No. I didn't explain very well. The paper becomes sticky, this is
>
> evident on
>
>>>white boarders with no ink whatever, it then leaves a residue on the
>
> head
>
>>>which in turn hardens and causes the blocked head. kodak explained it
>
> away
>
>>>by the fact that Epson do not recommend glossy paper with the 2100/2200.
>
> My
>
>>>point is again that paper can cause blocked nozzles and this is shown in
>
> a
>
>>>nozzle test as deflective firing. OK after changing to dye ink there was
>
> no
>
>>>problem with the Kodak paper. Change the paper from Kodak and all is
>
> well
>
>>>with pigmented ink except then you get Bronzing with glossy but no
>
> blocked
>
>>>nozzles.
>>>
>>>"CWatters" <colin.watters(a)pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
>>>news:RThve.130093$w33.7138441(a)phobos.telenet-ops.be...
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Shooter" <photoman52003-shoot(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:d9k6kp$i7r$1(a)nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry can not agree as you get a deflective fire of the head, and this
>>>>>happens after printing.
>>>>
>>>>You mean the ink bounces of the paper back onto the head? Never heard
>
> that
>
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
From: Shooter on
Seems a little strange that when you stop using Kodak and cheap paper the
problem disappears. I rarely get bad nozzle print offs infact in the time I
have used my present third party ink I have only had clean nozzle checks. If
I go back to either product and pigmented ink the problem returns. I have
now done this twice, but never again.

"Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
news:YrSve.105015$El.24623(a)pd7tw1no...
> It's stretching things. Both the Kodak example and the paper dust.
>
> Most deflection of nozzles and blockage are from the same cause, ... ink
> build up in the wrong places.
>
> Art
>
> Shooter wrote:
>
> > My only point was to highlight that paper can be the cause of head
blocking,
> > and in reply to the remark made by measekite instead I have had to go
into
> > chapter and verse. There is also another explanation for paper clogging
> > heads, in that some papers loose small fibres which attach to the
underside
> > of the head and that also will give the same deflective firing or if you
> > like head block, I have known cheap plain paper cause this. I am also
sure
> > there are other examples out there.
> >
> >
> > "Arthur Entlich" <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
> > news:Dlwve.1804250$Xk.204128(a)pd7tw3no...
> >
> >>OK, now I see where you are "headed" with this. It is true that Kodak
> >>uses swellable polymer surface on some of their papers. Swellable
> >>polymer is designed to give better permanence to dye inks, so the paper
> >>is definitely inappropriate for pigment colorant inks. However, in
> >>general, the ink shouldn't be piling up enough to hit the head unless
> >>the head has a build up of ink residue on it already.
> >>
> >>I will give this disclaimer... I haven't studied a 2200 enough to know
> >>if for some reason Epson places the heads much closer to the paper
> >>surface than most other Epson printers. Normally, with a clean head,
> >>ink should not be ending up back on the head surface even if the ink
> >>doesn't adsorb into the paper.
> >>
> >>Art
> >>
> >>
> >>Shooter wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>No. I didn't explain very well. The paper becomes sticky, this is
> >
> > evident on
> >
> >>>white boarders with no ink whatever, it then leaves a residue on the
> >
> > head
> >
> >>>which in turn hardens and causes the blocked head. kodak explained it
> >
> > away
> >
> >>>by the fact that Epson do not recommend glossy paper with the
2100/2200.
> >
> > My
> >
> >>>point is again that paper can cause blocked nozzles and this is shown
in
> >
> > a
> >
> >>>nozzle test as deflective firing. OK after changing to dye ink there
was
> >
> > no
> >
> >>>problem with the Kodak paper. Change the paper from Kodak and all is
> >
> > well
> >
> >>>with pigmented ink except then you get Bronzing with glossy but no
> >
> > blocked
> >
> >>>nozzles.
> >>>
> >>>"CWatters" <colin.watters(a)pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
> >>>news:RThve.130093$w33.7138441(a)phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"Shooter" <photoman52003-shoot(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>news:d9k6kp$i7r$1(a)nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Sorry can not agree as you get a deflective fire of the head, and
this
> >>>>>happens after printing.
> >>>>
> >>>>You mean the ink bounces of the paper back onto the head? Never heard
> >
> > that
> >
> >>>>before.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >