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From: Tim Perry on 10 Nov 2007 16:53 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:P0jZi.68397$Um6.23488(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:4735283A.7E13C1BF(a)hotmail.com... > > > > > > tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com wrote: > > > >> "Mike Jones" <michaeljns2(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > >> > I've recently joined a funk/gospel group and it's clear that I need to > >> > take my PA gear and upgrade my main speakers and start providing the > >> > PA. I > >> > own a selection of a couple of crown amps and three Behringer amps, so > >> > I've got plenty of amps, what I don't have are main PA speakers > >> > appropriate for this type of music. The band is huge, 1 lead vocalist, > >> > 4 > >> > backup vocalists, drums, bass, keyboard, guitar and 3 horns (trumpet, > >> > sax > >> > and trombone). Yep, that's 13 people... > >> > > >> > I own a DDX3216 with a couple of extra ADA8000's so I've got plenty of > >> > channels. I also own a few different cross overs, so I've got that one > >> > covered.. So, here's my dilemma, I'd like to be able to have a flexible > >> > system where I can add and subtract a similar set of main PA cabinets > >> > to > >> > handle venue sizes of 100 to up to 500 people. I'd like it to be > >> > modular > >> > and be able to add similar cabinets to accomodate different size > >> > auditoriums and venues. And, I'd like to keep costs for speakers under > >> > $4K. > >> > > >> > This is probably impossible, but great vocals need to come first with > >> > tons > >> > of bass pushed out at the bottom. Suggestions??? > >> > >> > >> Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's > > > > How much is a set of those going to cost ? Rather more than $4k methinks. > > > > Graham > > > > King George doesn't care about budgets. All buisness people care about budgets, usully first and formost above all else. > Must sacrifice to the SR god. That > means you must sell the car, the house, and put the wife and kids up as > slaves to buy the best and most expensive SR gear. In live performances it is very duficult to cover a mistake. Your get one chance with no edits or retakes to get it right. The better the gear you have the easier it is to achieve deisred results. If I could have EAW, Turbosound, Nexo, Renkus-Hines, Yorkville Sound Elite or better in the same size, weight, configuration and price including shipping as what I have I'd get them. I just came back from helping a friend set up his Carvin 1588's. If he can't kill them with rock and blues I guess they would work well enough for funk and gospel. I beleive the current version of these are the LS 1523. Yeah I'll probably get flamed for daring to mention the C word but it again a price/performance/avalibility thing.
From: Eeyore on 10 Nov 2007 17:31 gwatts wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com wrote: > >> "Mike Jones" <michaeljns2(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > >>> I've recently joined a funk/gospel group and it's clear that I need to > >>> take my PA gear and upgrade my main speakers... > >>> I've got plenty of amps, what I don't have are main PA speakers > >>> ...Suggestions??? > >> > >> Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's > > > > How much is a set of those going to cost ? Rather more than $4k methinks. > > > UPA1C's, asking $650 each (not me), > http://www.soundbroker.com/PA_SYSTEMS/?listingid=33462 > Good value for sure as long as he doesn't mind the road rash and the rusty fittings. I have some difficulty reconciling the statement "ONLY USED 4-6 TIMES PER YEAR" with their appearance in the pics. Graham
From: Eeyore on 10 Nov 2007 19:15 gwatts wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com wrote: > >> "Mike Jones" <michaeljns2(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >> > >>> I've recently joined a funk/gospel group and it's clear that I need to > >>> take my PA gear and upgrade my main speakers... > >>> I've got plenty of amps, what I don't have are main PA speakers > >>> ...Suggestions??? > >> > >> Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's > > > > How much is a set of those going to cost ? Rather more than $4k methinks. > > > UPA1C's, asking $650 each (not me), > http://www.soundbroker.com/PA_SYSTEMS/?listingid=33462 > > If those are gone there are more at $900 each, > http://www.soundbroker.com/SPEAKERS/?listingid=33228 > > He has the amps, the processors are very nice but not required, even so > they go for $300-800. I only spent a couple minutes looking and didn't > even try eBay, there are likely better deals if you look harder. > > So, Meyer UPA1C's with processing and I've only spent half his budget. A pair of UPA1Cs aren't going to hack it IMHO. The EVs I suggested deliver at least 3dB more than those Meyers and the ones I have in mind are used in a club that only has 250 capacity, whereas the OP's talking about up to 500. Graham
From: Peter Larsen on 11 Nov 2007 02:24 Eeyore wrote: >> UPA1C's, asking $650 each (not me), >> http://www.soundbroker.com/PA_SYSTEMS/?listingid=33462 > Good value for sure as long as he doesn't mind the road rash and the > rusty fittings. "Priced individually", "Some Units have toured", "Only one pair left". > I have some difficulty reconciling the statement "ONLY USED 4-6 TIMES > PER YEAR" with their appearance in the pics. It is (was) obviously from the text a pile of boxes from different sources. > Graham Kind regards Peter Larsen
From: tbmoas58 on 11 Nov 2007 08:28
"Peter Larsen" <plarsen(a)mail.tele.dk> wrote in message news:013569c0$0$25338$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Eeyore wrote: > >>> UPA1C's, asking $650 each (not me), >>> http://www.soundbroker.com/PA_SYSTEMS/?listingid=33462 > >> Good value for sure as long as he doesn't mind the road rash and the >> rusty fittings. > > "Priced individually", "Some Units have toured", "Only one pair left". > >> I have some difficulty reconciling the statement "ONLY USED 4-6 TIMES >> PER YEAR" with their appearance in the pics. > > It is (was) obviously from the text a pile of boxes from different > sources. > >> Graham > > Kind regards > > Peter Larsen I just bought 8 upa1's (a and c's) for about that 650 $ each george |