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From: Mike Dobony on 14 Nov 2007 18:04 "mcsteve" <mcstevex1350(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:G9jZi.1768$Z01.758(a)trndny01... > "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote: >> King George doesn't care about budgets. Must sacrifice to the SR god. >> That means you must sell the car, the house, and put the wife and kids up >> as slaves to buy the best and most expensive SR gear. > > Once again, you exhibit how ignorant you are when it comes to the > topic of live sound. > EAW 650s and LA 400s are hardly "the best and most expensive" > speakers out there. They are certainly good sounding boxes that > can be bought at a reasonable price, but they hardly fit the hyperbole > you've wrapped them in. > ??????????? Do you know how to read? King George recommended MEYER's, NOT EAW. > You should simply refrain from posting here, altogether. > > -- > Steve <snip> McQ >
From: Mike Dobony on 14 Nov 2007 18:08 <tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:13jbjd1fvejrg19(a)corp.supernews.com... > > "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message > news:P0jZi.68397$Um6.23488(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4735283A.7E13C1BF(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>> >>> tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com wrote: >>> >>>> "Mike Jones" <michaeljns2(a)hotmail.com> wrote >>>> >>>> > I've recently joined a funk/gospel group and it's clear that I need >>>> > to >>>> > take my PA gear and upgrade my main speakers and start providing the >>>> > PA. I >>>> > own a selection of a couple of crown amps and three Behringer amps, >>>> > so >>>> > I've got plenty of amps, what I don't have are main PA speakers >>>> > appropriate for this type of music. The band is huge, 1 lead >>>> > vocalist, 4 >>>> > backup vocalists, drums, bass, keyboard, guitar and 3 horns (trumpet, >>>> > sax >>>> > and trombone). Yep, that's 13 people... >>>> > >>>> > I own a DDX3216 with a couple of extra ADA8000's so I've got plenty >>>> > of >>>> > channels. I also own a few different cross overs, so I've got that >>>> > one >>>> > covered.. So, here's my dilemma, I'd like to be able to have a >>>> > flexible >>>> > system where I can add and subtract a similar set of main PA cabinets >>>> > to >>>> > handle venue sizes of 100 to up to 500 people. I'd like it to be >>>> > modular >>>> > and be able to add similar cabinets to accomodate different size >>>> > auditoriums and venues. And, I'd like to keep costs for speakers >>>> > under >>>> > $4K. >>>> > >>>> > This is probably impossible, but great vocals need to come first with >>>> > tons >>>> > of bass pushed out at the bottom. Suggestions??? >>>> >>>> >>>> Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's >>> >>> How much is a set of those going to cost ? Rather more than $4k >>> methinks. >>> >>> Graham >>> >> >> King George doesn't care about budgets. Must sacrifice to the SR god. >> That means you must sell the car, the house, and put the wife and kids up >> as slaves to buy the best and most expensive SR gear > > The band has 13 people in it > this is not a bottom feeder operation > the are playing FUNK > bon your cleless as to what is needed > sre they might get by on some mid grade jbl or some such but it will get > trashed very quickly > I have seen JBL's hold up quite nicely. Just take a little care of them. > point is the upa1 are no longer in production and used ones go for > 1000-1200 pair > very reasonable for pro level speakers > la400's are also in 600$ each price uses > so you have a 5000$ investment that will sound GREAT AND have resale value > almost equal to what you paid when its time to sell > Then why didn't you recommend the LA400's then? Six of then would do nicely and fit the OP's budge of $4,000, not your budget of $5,000. Stick with the OP's budget, not your own. > there is no down side to my suggestion > > george > . >> >> > > >
From: tbmoas58 on 14 Nov 2007 18:32 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:E9L_i.10083$yV6.4332(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > "mcsteve" <mcstevex1350(a)verizon.net> wrote in message > news:G9jZi.1768$Z01.758(a)trndny01... >> "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote: >>> King George doesn't care about budgets. Must sacrifice to the SR god. >>> That means you must sell the car, the house, and put the wife and kids >>> up as slaves to buy the best and most expensive SR gear. >> >> Once again, you exhibit how ignorant you are when it comes to the >> topic of live sound. >> EAW 650s and LA 400s are hardly "the best and most expensive" >> speakers out there. They are certainly good sounding boxes that >> can be bought at a reasonable price, but they hardly fit the hyperbole >> you've wrapped them in. >> > > ??????????? Do you know how to read? King George recommended MEYER's, > NOT EAW. I in fact recommened both the meyer upa1's at about 650$ each or the EAW kf650 at about 1200.00(both used prices) as being suitable for the task I also recommended the EAW la400 subs > > >> You should simply refrain from posting here, altogether. >> >> -- >> Steve <snip> McQ >> > >
From: tbmoas58 on 14 Nov 2007 18:39 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:RdL_i.10084$yV6.8072(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > > <tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com> wrote in message > news:13jbjd1fvejrg19(a)corp.supernews.com... >> >> "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message >> news:P0jZi.68397$Um6.23488(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.net... >>> >>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:4735283A.7E13C1BF(a)hotmail.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Mike Jones" <michaeljns2(a)hotmail.com> wrote >>>>> >>>>> > I've recently joined a funk/gospel group and it's clear that I need >>>>> > to >>>>> > take my PA gear and upgrade my main speakers and start providing the >>>>> > PA. I >>>>> > own a selection of a couple of crown amps and three Behringer amps, >>>>> > so >>>>> > I've got plenty of amps, what I don't have are main PA speakers >>>>> > appropriate for this type of music. The band is huge, 1 lead >>>>> > vocalist, 4 >>>>> > backup vocalists, drums, bass, keyboard, guitar and 3 horns >>>>> > (trumpet, sax >>>>> > and trombone). Yep, that's 13 people... >>>>> > >>>>> > I own a DDX3216 with a couple of extra ADA8000's so I've got plenty >>>>> > of >>>>> > channels. I also own a few different cross overs, so I've got that >>>>> > one >>>>> > covered.. So, here's my dilemma, I'd like to be able to have a >>>>> > flexible >>>>> > system where I can add and subtract a similar set of main PA >>>>> > cabinets to >>>>> > handle venue sizes of 100 to up to 500 people. I'd like it to be >>>>> > modular >>>>> > and be able to add similar cabinets to accomodate different size >>>>> > auditoriums and venues. And, I'd like to keep costs for speakers >>>>> > under >>>>> > $4K. >>>>> > >>>>> > This is probably impossible, but great vocals need to come first >>>>> > with tons >>>>> > of bass pushed out at the bottom. Suggestions??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's >>>> >>>> How much is a set of those going to cost ? Rather more than $4k >>>> methinks. >>>> >>>> Graham >>>> >>> >>> King George doesn't care about budgets. Must sacrifice to the SR god. >>> That means you must sell the car, the house, and put the wife and kids >>> up as slaves to buy the best and most expensive SR gear >> >> The band has 13 people in it >> this is not a bottom feeder operation >> the are playing FUNK >> bon your cleless as to what is needed >> sre they might get by on some mid grade jbl or some such but it will get >> trashed very quickly >> > > I have seen JBL's hold up quite nicely. Just take a little care of them. > >> point is the upa1 are no longer in production and used ones go for >> 1000-1200 pair >> very reasonable for pro level speakers >> la400's are also in 600$ each price uses >> so you have a 5000$ investment that will sound GREAT AND have resale >> value almost equal to what you paid when its time to sell >> > > Then why didn't you recommend the LA400's then? . do you even know what a la400 is and in fact I did recommend them here is a cut and paste from this very post Meyer upa1's( OR EAW KF650'S) over eaw la400's Six of then would do nicely do what nicely? I would not want a system that was simply 6 la400's > and fit the OP's budge of $4,000, not your budget of $5,000. Stick with > the OP's budget, not your own Used prices vary quite a bit and in today market 1000$ is likely the profit from les than 3 gigs you really dont understand budgets do you bony they are not fixed numbers carved in stone unmuteable for any reason they are moveable goal posts that help guide twards a reasonable solution george > >> there is no down side to my suggestion >> >> george >> . >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
From: mcsteve on 14 Nov 2007 18:42
<tbmoas58(a)peoplepc.com> wrote: > I in fact recommened both the meyer upa1's at about 650$ each or the EAW > kf650 at about 1200.00(both used prices) as being suitable for the task > I also recommended the EAW la400 subs > You know, George... It dawned on me that your use of the phrase "over LA 400s" went right 'over' Bony's pointy little head. He probably thinks it meant "other than". As in, "I would recommend A over B". He probably doesn't know that the 400s are subs. But, why would he? He knows next to nothing. -- Steve <snip> McQ |