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From: NoEinstein on 21 May 2010 23:48
On May 21, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Dear Burt: The definition of mass: "Any concentration of energy which
can slow the passage of ether through such, and, while so doing,
experience a force in the same direction as the flowing ether, and in
proportion to the concentration of energy-mass. Additionally, a mass
must be capable of giving off at least one photon." — NoEinstein —
>
> On May 20, 5:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On May 19, 3:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 18, 9:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 19, 3:05 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 5/18/10 7:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > > > > PD (AKA Paul Draper) used to teach science, or physics, in some
> > > > > > capacity.  He considers the status quo to be his Bible of what’s
> > > > > > what.  In particular, he accepts—without question—the equations and
> > > > > > definitions in his high school science books, and he expects all
> > > > > > others to do the same.
>
> > > > >    Perhaps you have forgotten that the ideal world pretty much behaves
> > > > >    as the physics textbooks describe. Newtonian mechanics is adequate
> > > > >    for describing the behavior of the world that most experience.
>
> > > > >    Furthermore, advance texts teaching relativity and the quantum
> > > > >    mechanics are right on also.
>
> > > > >    Does NoEinstein for get that science laws and theories are testable
> > > > >    and that the has never been an observation that has contradicted
> > > > >    a prediction of the QED or relativity. All are very fruitful theories
> > > > >    and help us to understand nature.
>
> > > > >    Do some self-education NoEinstein, instead of wasting your time
> > > > >    trying to disparage what you don't understand.
>
> > > > -------------------------
> > > > one of the disasters that happened to modern science
> > > > is that
> > > > untalented   people like Sam Wormley
> > > > are 'teaching' others physics!!
> > > > byjust quoting others....from existing text books!
>
> > > > just a few hundreds of years a go
> > > > people were teaching others from text books
> > > > that determined that the sun is orbiting earth
> > > > and exactly the same
> > > > the    parrots of today teach every body that
>
> > > > "NO MASS CAN REACH    c !!!!--
>
> > > > AND THEREFORE THERE ARE MASS LESS
> > > > PARTICLES !!!
> > > > keep well
> > > > Y.Porat
> > > > --------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Massless energy is not infinitely dense.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Burt, That's brilliant!  — NE —- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Mass is the state of energy whereby it is infinitely dense. Mass is
> always an infinitely dense infinitely small point of energy. Point
> particles are mass.
>
> Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Uncle Ben on 22 May 2010 16:34
On May 21, 11:48 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 21, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Burt:  The definition of mass: "Any concentration of energy which
> can slow the passage of ether through such, and, while so doing,
> experience a force in the same direction as the flowing ether, and in
> proportion to the concentration of energy-mass.  Additionally, a mass
> must be capable of giving off at least one photon."  — NoEinstein —
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 20, 5:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 19, 3:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 18, 9:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 19, 3:05 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 5/18/10 7:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > > > > > PD (AKA Paul Draper) used to teach science, or physics, in some
> > > > > > > capacity.  He considers the status quo to be his Bible of what’s
> > > > > > > what.  In particular, he accepts—without question—the equations and
> > > > > > > definitions in his high school science books, and he expects all
> > > > > > > others to do the same.
>
> > > > > >    Perhaps you have forgotten that the ideal world pretty much behaves
> > > > > >    as the physics textbooks describe. Newtonian mechanics is adequate
> > > > > >    for describing the behavior of the world that most experience.
>
> > > > > >    Furthermore, advance texts teaching relativity and the quantum
> > > > > >    mechanics are right on also.
>
> > > > > >    Does NoEinstein for get that science laws and theories are testable
> > > > > >    and that the has never been an observation that has contradicted
> > > > > >    a prediction of the QED or relativity. All are very fruitful theories
> > > > > >    and help us to understand nature.
>
> > > > > >    Do some self-education NoEinstein, instead of wasting your time
> > > > > >    trying to disparage what you don't understand.
>
> > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > one of the disasters that happened to modern science
> > > > > is that
> > > > > untalented   people like Sam Wormley
> > > > > are 'teaching' others physics!!
> > > > > byjust quoting others....from existing text books!
>
> > > > > just a few hundreds of years a go
> > > > > people were teaching others from text books
> > > > > that determined that the sun is orbiting earth
> > > > > and exactly the same
> > > > > the    parrots of today teach every body that
>
> > > > > "NO MASS CAN REACH    c !!!!--
>
> > > > > AND THEREFORE THERE ARE MASS LESS
> > > > > PARTICLES !!!
> > > > > keep well
> > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > --------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Massless energy is not infinitely dense.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Burt, That's brilliant!  — NE —- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Mass is the state of energy whereby it is infinitely dense. Mass is
> > always an infinitely dense infinitely small point of energy. Point
> > particles are mass.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

After the mass gives off its one photon, is it then not a mass?

(Continue the insanity!)

UB
From: NoEinstein on 24 May 2010 15:38
On May 22, 4:34 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
Dear U. Ben: Great question! Charged particles, like electrons and
protons, have a mass. Collectively, they are capable of illuminating
by their 'at least one' photon. But once they become deficient in the
ether which forms the photons, they can absorb the needed
replenishment ether and continue to emit photons. However, unlike in
larger mass concentrations, the photons are widely spaced and have no
specific frequency. If, say, gamma ray streams are emitting photons,
such can carry away some of the ether near the beam, and result in
gravity being able to bend the beam. No mass can be a mass unless
ether flow can impart a force to it! — NoEinstein —
>
> On May 21, 11:48 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On May 21, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Burt:  The definition of mass: "Any concentration of energy which
> > can slow the passage of ether through such, and, while so doing,
> > experience a force in the same direction as the flowing ether, and in
> > proportion to the concentration of energy-mass.  Additionally, a mass
> > must be capable of giving off at least one photon."  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > On May 20, 5:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 19, 3:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 18, 9:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 19, 3:05 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 5/18/10 7:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >PD(AKA Paul Draper) used to teach science, or physics, insome
> > > > > > > > capacity.  He considers the status quo to be his Bible of what’s
> > > > > > > > what.  In particular, he accepts—without question—the equations and
> > > > > > > > definitions in his high school science books, and he expects all
> > > > > > > > others to do the same.
>
> > > > > > >    Perhaps you have forgotten that the ideal world pretty much behaves
> > > > > > >    as the physics textbooks describe. Newtonian mechanics is adequate
> > > > > > >    for describing the behavior of the world that most experience.
>
> > > > > > >    Furthermore, advance texts teaching relativity and the quantum
> > > > > > >    mechanics are right on also.
>
> > > > > > >    Does NoEinstein for get that science laws and theories are testable
> > > > > > >    and that thehasnever been an observation thathascontradicted
> > > > > > >    a prediction of the QED or relativity. All are very fruitful theories
> > > > > > >    and help us to understand nature.
>
> > > > > > >    Dosomeself-education NoEinstein, instead of wasting your time
> > > > > > >    trying to disparage what you don't understand.
>
> > > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > > one of the disasters that happened to modern science
> > > > > > is that
> > > > > > untalented   people like Sam Wormley
> > > > > > are 'teaching' others physics!!
> > > > > > byjust quoting others....from existing text books!
>
> > > > > > just a few hundreds of years a go
> > > > > > people were teaching others from text books
> > > > > > that determined that the sun is orbiting earth
> > > > > > and exactly the same
> > > > > > the    parrots of today teach every body that
>
> > > > > > "NO MASS CAN REACH    c !!!!--
>
> > > > > > AND THEREFORE THERE ARE MASS LESS
> > > > > > PARTICLES !!!
> > > > > > keep well
> > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > --------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Massless energy is not infinitely dense.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Burt, That's brilliant!  — NE —- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Mass is the state of energy whereby it is infinitely dense. Mass is
> > > always an infinitely dense infinitely small point of energy. Point
> > > particles are mass.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> After the mass gives off its one photon, is it then not a mass?
>
> (Continue the insanity!)
>
> UB- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Uncle Ben on 24 May 2010 16:18
On May 24, 3:38 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On May 22, 4:34 pm, Uncle Ben <b...(a)greenba.com> wrote:
>
> Dear U. Ben:  Great question!  Charged particles, like electrons and
> protons, have a mass.  Collectively, they are capable of illuminating
> by their 'at least one' photon.  But once they become deficient in the
> ether which forms the photons, they can absorb the needed
> replenishment ether and continue to emit photons.  However, unlike in
> larger mass concentrations, the photons are widely spaced and have no
> specific frequency.  If, say, gamma ray streams are emitting photons,
> such can carry away some of the ether near the beam, and result in
> gravity being able to bend the beam.  No mass can be a mass unless
> ether flow can impart a force to it!  — NoEinstein —
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 11:48 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 11:04 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear Burt:  The definition of mass: "Any concentration of energy which
> > > can slow the passage of ether through such, and, while so doing,
> > > experience a force in the same direction as the flowing ether, and in
> > > proportion to the concentration of energy-mass.  Additionally, a mass
> > > must be capable of giving off at least one photon."  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > On May 20, 5:58 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 19, 3:09 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 18, 9:37 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 19, 3:05 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On 5/18/10 7:26 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >PD(AKA Paul Draper) used to teach science, or physics, insome
> > > > > > > > > capacity.  He considers the status quo to be his Bible of what’s
> > > > > > > > > what.  In particular, he accepts—without question—the equations and
> > > > > > > > > definitions in his high school science books, and he expects all
> > > > > > > > > others to do the same.
>
> > > > > > > >    Perhaps you have forgotten that the ideal world pretty much behaves
> > > > > > > >    as the physics textbooks describe. Newtonian mechanics is adequate
> > > > > > > >    for describing the behavior of the world that most experience.
>
> > > > > > > >    Furthermore, advance texts teaching relativity and the quantum
> > > > > > > >    mechanics are right on also.
>
> > > > > > > >    Does NoEinstein for get that science laws and theories are testable
> > > > > > > >    and that thehasnever been an observation thathascontradicted
> > > > > > > >    a prediction of the QED or relativity. All are very fruitful theories
> > > > > > > >    and help us to understand nature.
>
> > > > > > > >    Dosomeself-education NoEinstein, instead of wasting your time
> > > > > > > >    trying to disparage what you don't understand.
>
> > > > > > > -------------------------
> > > > > > > one of the disasters that happened to modern science
> > > > > > > is that
> > > > > > > untalented   people like Sam Wormley
> > > > > > > are 'teaching' others physics!!
> > > > > > > byjust quoting others....from existing text books!
>
> > > > > > > just a few hundreds of years a go
> > > > > > > people were teaching others from text books
> > > > > > > that determined that the sun is orbiting earth
> > > > > > > and exactly the same
> > > > > > > the    parrots of today teach every body that
>
> > > > > > > "NO MASS CAN REACH    c !!!!--
>
> > > > > > > AND THEREFORE THERE ARE MASS LESS
> > > > > > > PARTICLES !!!
> > > > > > > keep well
> > > > > > > Y.Porat
> > > > > > > --------------------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > Massless energy is not infinitely dense.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Burt, That's brilliant!  — NE —- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Mass is the state of energy whereby it is infinitely dense. Mass is
> > > > always an infinitely dense infinitely small point of energy. Point
> > > > particles are mass.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > After the mass gives off its one photon, is it then not a mass?
>
> > (Continue the insanity!)
>
> > UB

Do these bits of knowledge come to you in a dream, or what?
From: Androcles on 24 May 2010 16:29

"Uncle Ben" <ben(a)greenba.com> wrote in message
news:5fb7e3ff-403f-48bd-bf0d-d696df373bba(a)v18g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
| Do these bits of knowledge come to you in a dream, or what?

Is that how you found out about "time dilation" tau= t * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
(so moving clocks run slow) and "length contraction" xi = x'/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
(so moving lengths get longer), Bonehead? In a dream, was it?
Or should it be tau = t' * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) where t' = t-x/v?




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