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From: Susan Bugher on 23 Jan 2007 14:39
Susan Bugher wrote:
> Susan Bugher wrote:

>> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2007/2007PL-Procedures.php

>> Two programs appear to be candidates for removal from the
>> Pricelessware List, the Google Toolbar and Ragtime Solo.

> Make that three. :( ePrompter is the latest candidate.
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2007/PL2007INTERNET.php#0903-PW

******** OLD BUSINESS *********

The Google Toolbar and ePrompter have been removed.
RagTime Solo stays (the description now has a good download link).

******** NEW BUSINESS *********

SoftCAT and ZoneAlarm are the next candidates for removal.

<q>
From: Susan Bugher <sebug...(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PL] PL2007 Discussion: SoftCAT
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 11:08:41 -0500

Another one that's about ready to bite the dust?
</q>

SoftCAT is now shareware.

Is there a last freeware version?

--------------

I've read that the current version of ZoneAlarm is Nagware.

Is there any evidence that it is not?

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From: Susan Bugher on 24 Jan 2007 20:19
Susan Bugher wrote:

> SoftCAT and ZoneAlarm are the next candidates for removal.

> SoftCAT is now shareware.
>
> Is there a last freeware version?

I'm still wondering. . .
haven't had time to do any checking. . .

> --------------
>
> I've read that the current version of ZoneAlarm is Nagware.
>
> Is there any evidence that it is not?

It occurs to me that maybe NONE of the 28 people who voted for ZA are
willing to install the latest bloated version. ;) IOW - I may never
get an answer. . .

Would people please give me some input -> pick one of these options

1. continue to show the most recent version of ZA (we would need make
sure it is NOT Nagware)
2. show an older version

If sentiment is clearly in favor of an older version, we can stop
worrying about the Nagware issue and start discussing WHICH older
version should be shown.

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From: Susan Bugher on 24 Jan 2007 21:17
Rodney Reason wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:19:51 -0500, Susan Bugher wrote:

>>It occurs to me that maybe NONE of the 28 people who voted for ZA are
>>willing to install the latest bloated version. ;) IOW - I may never
>>get an answer. . .

> I think I was one of those people, and I'm afraid I don't have
> any plans to install it, sorry :P

Why am I not surprized? ;)

>>Would people please give me some input -> pick one of these options
>>
>>2. show an older version

> I think an older version would be best. I voted based on using
> 2.6 and 5.5, but not on my own system. It's the firewall I put
> on the computers of friends and relatives. Based on what I've
> read here and elsewhere, I wouldn't punish them and myself with
> the newest version.

Thanks Rodney. :) An older version is my choice too.

------------

dunno if we're going to find the last free version of SoftCAT (I just
did a tiny bit of scouting) - AFAIK this is what we're looking for:

v 2.10 (2005-11-29)
softcat_setup.exe
4788 KB 4.67 MB (4,902,283 bytes)

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From: »Q« on 24 Jan 2007 22:30
In <news:51qeqqF1lfgr4U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
Susan Bugher <sebugher(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > SoftCAT is now shareware.
> >
> > Is there a last freeware version?
>
> I'm still wondering. . .
> haven't had time to do any checking. . .

Isn't version 2.10, apparently still on the site, the last known
freeware version?

The download links are

<http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/dl/softcat_v2_setup.exe> and

<http://www.fnprg.net/softcat/dl/softcat_setup.exe>

The two files have the same md5 and sha1sums, so I guess they are both
2.10.
From: Susan Bugher on 24 Jan 2007 23:57
�Q� wrote:
> In <news:51qeqqF1lfgr4U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> Susan Bugher <sebugher(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>SoftCAT is now shareware.
>>>
>>>Is there a last freeware version?
>>
>>I'm still wondering. . .
>>haven't had time to do any checking. . .

> Isn't version 2.10, apparently still on the site, the last known
> freeware version?

I'm not ***100*** percent sure about that. IIRC the free vs. paid page
disappeared - replaced by a "coming soon" note. . . so *mostly* what
remained was "free trial" notices. . .

This seems to be the most recent set the Wayback Machine has:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060516083533/http://www.fnprg.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20060530054520/www.fnprg.com/softcatplus/info.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060530054547/www.fnprg.com/softcatplus/download.html
This is the page that went missing:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060520164444/www.fnprg.com/softcatplus/freevsplus.html

> The download links are
>
> <http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/dl/softcat_v2_setup.exe> and
>
> <http://www.fnprg.net/softcat/dl/softcat_setup.exe>
>
> The two files have the same md5 and sha1sums, so I guess they are both
> 2.10.

It seems to be the same file: the size matches the file I downloaded on
11/3/2006.

v 2.10
http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/dl/softcat_setup.exe
4788 KB 4.67 MB (4,902,283 bytes)

I started checking a little while ago. . .

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/SoftCAT/1010794491/1
SoftCAT 2.10.00
License: Freeware
File Size: 4,787 KB
http://fileforum.betanews.com/download/SoftCAT/1010794491/1
redirects to:
http://www.fnprg.com/softcat/dl/softcat_setup.exe *NOT FOUND

The file was moved from .com to .net and the copy that stayed was
renamed. IMO that does not bode well for the future. I'd be a lot
happier if we could find an off-site repository that has the file -
dunno what the EULA for this version says but I IIRC free distribution
was NOT allowed in years past.

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