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From: J G Miller on 10 Apr 2010 10:02
Op Zaterdag, 10 April 2010, 13:58:46 +0200, Houghi schreef:

> Was about a year or so that I looked at it and by nothing
> I ment nothing that stands out.

Yes, people have been wondering if the release version of
E17 will ever arrive, since it has been under development
since 2000.

Of course it has taken a little longer than anticipated because
they more or less started from scratch for all of the libraries,
and E17 is much more ambitious as a desktop manager than the
previous E16 window manager.

If you recall, in the very early days of Gnome, Enlightenment
was in fact the official window manager for the Gnome desktop,
until it was supplanted by sawfish, which was then supplanted
by metacity.
From: David Bolt on 10 Apr 2010 11:52
On Saturday 10 Apr 2010 15:35, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Darklight painted this mural:

> houghi wrote:

>> desktop. Well, there isn't. There are only two wrong
> answers. KDE and
>> GNOME. :-D
>>
> what wrong with kde or gnome

Every time someone uses KDE, a puppy is killed, and a kitten is killed
when Gnome is used. It's just as well, think of the populations of both
kittens and puppies there would be if it wasn't for those two desktops
cutting it down a bit. By now, we'd be knee deep at least.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: keith on 10 Apr 2010 18:06
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:04:31 +0200, houghi wrote:


>
> But mainly the puppies and the kittens.
>

But they do taste nice in a curry! 8-)

Keith
From: Darklight on 11 Apr 2010 05:20
houghi wrote:

> Darklight wrote:
>>> That's the great thing I like. It also means there is no
>> right answer.
>>> Perhaps people will wonder why I think there is no right
>> answer for the
>>> desktop. Well, there isn't. There are only two wrong
>> answers. KDE and
>>> GNOME. :-D
>>>
>> what wrong with kde or gnome
>
> OK, here we go (Darn, I am a good troll. :-)
>
> 1) It messes up the quoting (a)
> 2) Each time you run KDE a puppie gets killed and with
GNOME a kitten

whats with kill puppies or kittens

> 3) They are copies of Windows and one of the reasons I use
Linux is that

are not all desktops like windows.

> I do not like Windows. Even there I rather use the
Emerge Desktop (b)
> 4) KDE and GNOME (and partly also XFCE) devided more then
solved. By
> devided I mean that programs are now written twice or
three times.
> People run either KDE or GNOME programs instead of using
the program

there are many programs i use that are not part of kde.

> they like.
> 5) To make it look like I want it, there is so much to do
that it is not
> worth my time. Disable almost everything that makes it
'special'.

from what i have seen enlightenment is just as configurable
if not more so than kde or gnome

> 6) The thing about 'We are not a Window Manager, we are a
Desktop
> Enviroment' or whatever. I just want a program that
places the
> programs on my screen and no political bla-bla around
it.
> 7) Killing puppies or kittens is just not cool and I do not
even like
> animals, unless they are on my plate.
> 8) Too many people think these are the only two options,
which limits
> the development of alternatives. Less variaty is always
a bad thing.
> Two choices is just way too limited.
> 9) The whole look and feel is unapealing and more about
show and less


> about functionality.
i would disagree my setup is very functional.

> I do like bling-bling but it should not be the
> only thing and that is what I get when I see KDE and
GNOME.
>
> But mainly the puppies and the kittens.
>
> (a) I dd not look at the header, so it could have been
anything,
> (b) http://emergedesktop.org/ or also
http://www.litestep.net/
> houghi

From: David Bolt on 11 Apr 2010 09:29
On Sunday 11 Apr 2010 11:53, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
houghi painted this mural:

> Darklight wrote:
> <snip>
>>> OK, here we go (Darn, I am a good troll. :-)
>>>
>>> 1) It messes up the quoting (a)
>>> 2) Each time you run KDE a puppie gets killed and with
>> GNOME a kitten
>>
>> whats with kill puppies or kittens
> <snip>
>
> I read till here. The rest is so confusing because of the lousy quoting
> that I would have to work hard to see who wrote what. Please start using
> a newsreader that can quote or correct it all yourself.

He is using a newsreader that can quote properly. For some reason it's
been set to wrap at somewhere around a line length of 64 characters, or
the "Rewrap quoted text automatically" is enabled. Maybe the composer
window is narrow and his newsreader is wrapping the text to fit it in
the window rather than providing a horizontal scroll bar.

As for myself, I turned off all wrapping and do the it manually. This
makes it much easier to include very long lines, where required, and I
can enforce the wrapping at line lengths I choose, which is generally
about 72 characters.


Regards,
David Bolt

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