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From: Volker Borchert on 10 Feb 2010 15:58 jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > IMHO if there was a simple OS support plan that allowed for filing bug > reports electronically, patch download, no handholding, and was on the > order of $100/yr, I would think they would sell a LOT of them. I think download-only for 30$ would be more attractive. (Would that be tax deductible?) -- "I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mccoy(a)ncc1701.starfleet.fed> "I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert <v_borchert(a)despammed.com>
From: Ian Collins on 10 Feb 2010 15:57 Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > Ian Collins wrote: a LOT of them. >> >> That's what they used to have, the basic plan was $120 a year. I >> agree with your comment, I had a plan then, I don't now. >> > > I believe it's still available but as of the last time I heard it cost > more money. The last figure I'm sure of was $240 per year and I believe > that there has been at least one increase in that rate. > > More money buys you more, or faster, service! If you want both more and > faster be ready to cough up BIG bucks!!! True, but I don't think the current $240 plan offers much, if anything, more than the old $120 one. -- Ian Collins
From: John D Groenveld on 10 Feb 2010 16:05 In article <7tghorF9i1U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Ian Collins <ian-news(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> IMHO if there was a simple OS support plan that allowed for filing bug >> reports electronically, patch download, no handholding, and was on the >> order of $100/yr, I would think they would sell a LOT of them. > >That's what they used to have, the basic plan was $120 a year. I agree >with your comment, I had a plan then, I don't now. I suspect most of that market got onto Solaris Express and Indiana trains. John groenveld(a)acm.org
From: Richard B. Gilbert on 10 Feb 2010 16:16 Ian Collins wrote: > Richard B. Gilbert wrote: >> Ian Collins wrote: a LOT of them. >>> >>> That's what they used to have, the basic plan was $120 a year. I >>> agree with your comment, I had a plan then, I don't now. >>> >> >> I believe it's still available but as of the last time I heard it cost >> more money. The last figure I'm sure of was $240 per year and I >> believe that there has been at least one increase in that rate. >> >> More money buys you more, or faster, service! If you want both more >> and faster be ready to cough up BIG bucks!!! > > True, but I don't think the current $240 plan offers much, if anything, > more than the old $120 one. > AFAIK the only difference is the price. I could be wrong. As a hobbyist I have NO support from Sun or anyone else. If I find something that doesn't work, I'll either fix it myself or learn to live without it.
From: jimp on 10 Feb 2010 16:07
Richard B. Gilbert <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Ian Collins wrote: >> jimp(a)specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> Tim Bradshaw <tfb(a)tfeb.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think it's unreasonable for Sun/Oracle to try and make money >>>> from support for the software they give away for free, actually. >>>> That kind of is the OSS business model isn't it (when it's not >>>> "Collect underpants", "?", "Profit")? >>> >>> Yeah, I understand that but there needs to be a reasonable balance for >>> patches. >>> >>> For example, if patches for something that could cause the system to halt >>> at 3AM aren't readily available, they are shooting themselves in the >>> foot. >> >> If I had a system that had to be running at 3AM, I'd make sure I had a >> support contract! >> > > Any system that HAS to be available needs a support contract. It may > even need a clone to take over in case the original becomes seriously > ill! Probably needs one or more RAID arrays as well. > >>> Also, the current support plans offered seem like something out of the >>> big iron mainframe days. >>> >>> Why, for example, does the number of CPU's matter for OS updates? >>> >>> IMHO if there was a simple OS support plan that allowed for filing bug >>> reports electronically, patch download, no handholding, and was on the >>> order of $100/yr, I would think they would sell a LOT of them. >> >> That's what they used to have, the basic plan was $120 a year. I agree >> with your comment, I had a plan then, I don't now. >> > > I believe it's still available but as of the last time I heard it cost > more money. The last figure I'm sure of was $240 per year and I believe > that there has been at least one increase in that rate. > > More money buys you more, or faster, service! If you want both more and > faster be ready to cough up BIG bucks!!! The basic plan seems to be $324/year, but isn't available for more than 2 sockets. That means to get all patches for my old V440 with 4 CPU's, I'd have to go to $1440/year. So what does the number of CPU's in a V440 have to do with OS patches? At least they don't use a per core basis so my 4 core X86 machine could get the $324/year plan. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |