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From: Sue Morton on 1 Dec 2009 08:37 Thanks Gerry! I'll pass this on too. I'm sure he purchased *something* last night, since the deals were over yesterday (not that they won't be back, but I know he wanted to buy right now). Still I'm sure he can make use of your info... -- Sue Morton "Gerry Peters" <GerryPeters(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:e9b9h5pnc5a1cgq6g55bbqb4lb1m1ce26e(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:02:13 -0800, "Sue Morton" > <867-5309(a)domain.invalid> wrote: > >>OK got a question: >> >>---------------------------------------- >>Does SD2.0 come with all of the same MIDI loops as EZD? My understanding >>is >>that it doesn't and that's why people have recommended the purchase of >>both. >>As I'm not a drummer, I'm thinking I'd get a lot of use from and much >>better >>output with MIDI loops than I do my current method of me creating all drum >>parts manually via the Piano Roll View (the drum hit version anyway). >>---------------------------------------- >> >>G'Bo (or anyone) do you know whether he'll get the loops if he only buys >>SD2.0? That's why he was thinking of getting EZD, then using that to >>cross-grade to SD2.0. > > I got Superior 2 a few weeks ago. It's really impressive. You can get > up and running pretty quickly but to really absorb all it can do takes > time and study. I play drums in real time on my keyboard and quantise. > > The loops are very good and can be accessed in Superior by selecting > the Grooves tab. I don't need to use EZ Player as a soft synth, I only > use Superior. From what I can tell there's no reason to use EZ Player, > because all of the patterns can be acessed by selecting the grooves > tab in Superior. > > The number of loops is mind boggling. For me it's far easier and > quicker just to make up and play my own midi track. But if you run out > of ideas, the loops have tons of inspiration. > > The only expansion pack I got so far is Nashville. It's so much better > than NY Avatar that I only used a little from Avatar. The Nashville > pack doesn't sound traditional country at all, it's more Rock or Rock > Country. > > One of the best things is once you've worked hard on putting together > the ultimate drum kit with all the mapping and X-Drums combining all > the sounds availbable, you can save it and use that for a starting > point for the next songs. > -- > Gerry Peters
From: Tom B on 1 Dec 2009 11:24 But just so whomever is getting ready to purchase knows... Although you can audition the grooves in superior, if you fireup EZPro (which simply pops up and sits right on top of the S2 interface), you can then chop up, loop, mix and match, any part of as many of those grooves as you like and record that final personal groove to then use for S2. So the EZPro is a very powerful tool. There is a vid on Toontrack that shows how it works... Go to TT and Products, TT Soft Tools, EZPro. Watch that vid but imagine the whole time that S2 is sitting open under that app. Much like say Sonar or Reaper sits under a SoftSynth while you tweak on it.
From: Gerry Peters on 1 Dec 2009 14:08 On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:24:43 -0500, "Tom B" <nottb(a)123.com> wrote: >But just so whomever is getting ready to purchase knows... > >Although you can audition the grooves in superior, if you fireup EZPro >(which simply pops up and sits right on top of the S2 interface), you can >then chop up, loop, mix and match, any part of as many of those grooves as >you like and record that final personal groove to then use for S2. > >So the EZPro is a very powerful tool. > >There is a vid on Toontrack that shows how it works... > >Go to TT and Products, TT Soft Tools, EZPro. Watch that vid but imagine the >whole time that S2 is sitting open under that app. Much like say Sonar or >Reaper sits under a SoftSynth while you tweak on it. > In Superior you can drag a groove into the Clip pane of Sonar and then edit. That's as far as I've taken it. Thanks for sharing the info on EZPro. It looks like it has more options and tools. I'll dig into it eventually because real drummer grooves in certain instances are far superior than quantise as far as feel. -- Gerry Peters
From: Sue Morton on 1 Dec 2009 15:11 My friend didn't see some of the last information you gave me for him... and the deals were over with last night. So, he bought EZD and the crossgrade to SD2.0 for $200 total. He's confident he'll be happy. Please keep on with the ideas and information on how to use both of these products, I'll keep passing it on to him. And, most importantly, he asked me to let all of you know how much he appreciated your quick responses to his questions! :-) -- Sue Morton "Gerry Peters" <GerryPeters(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:j3qah5pif0o6d1vdl9dhsugg80rl2hn5s8(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:24:43 -0500, "Tom B" <nottb(a)123.com> wrote: > >>But just so whomever is getting ready to purchase knows... >> >>Although you can audition the grooves in superior, if you fireup EZPro >>(which simply pops up and sits right on top of the S2 interface), you can >>then chop up, loop, mix and match, any part of as many of those grooves as >>you like and record that final personal groove to then use for S2. >> >>So the EZPro is a very powerful tool. >> >>There is a vid on Toontrack that shows how it works... >> >>Go to TT and Products, TT Soft Tools, EZPro. Watch that vid but imagine >>the >>whole time that S2 is sitting open under that app. Much like say Sonar or >>Reaper sits under a SoftSynth while you tweak on it. >> > > In Superior you can drag a groove into the Clip pane of Sonar and then > edit. That's as far as I've taken it. Thanks for sharing the info on > EZPro. It looks like it has more options and tools. I'll dig into it > eventually because real drummer grooves in certain instances are far > superior than quantise as far as feel. > -- > Gerry Peters
From: Mod Bod on 1 Dec 2009 17:44
Glennbo wrote: > The killer robot Eddie <EA1234(a)nospamnothanks.com> grabbed the controls > of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> I read up a bunch on Superior Drummer and it appeared to me, that it >> was a little less user-friendly than EZDrummer. It appeared that one >> needed to install some sort of additional player to be able to hear >> the samples or whatever. In EZDrummer, you can open the interface, >> click the groove pane, and then just grab a groove and pull it right >> onto a MIDI track in SONAR. >> >> Can one do this in Superior Drummer? I havent been able to determine >> the workflow... I'm just learning SONAR (HomeStudio6) and I've got >> quite enough on my plate as it is now... the ease of EZDrummer really >> appealed to me > > In the last update for SD2, they integrated EZ-Player so it now is as EZ as > it is in EZD to preview grooves, and then drag-n-drop them into your song. > What is more difficult, yet more powerful in SD2 is that the samples > themselves have not been pre-processed, meaning they aren't EQ'd or tweaked > at all, so it's totally up to you to get them sounding good. What I've > noticed the most is that the EZD samples are compressed a fair amount, and > mostly EQ'd rather bright. The Superior Dummer 2 samples are of the same > kit, but more samples, and no pre-processing, so there's where the not as > EZ part comes in. > Let me clear up something. In the latest update of Superior they have integrated a midi browser and player that is in between EZdrummer and EZplayer in features. It has the ability to audition the groove at the original tempo of the midi file and also the Kit pieces feature of EZPP. Kit pieces allows you to drag and drop individual pieces of a groove, like just the hihat for example, into your project. You can also add updated groove libraries that you download by simply dragging them into the Superior groove browser and dropping them. It doesn't work on all midi files though. EZplayer has a few more features in addition to that. Glennbo had the major gist of it but I didn't want anyone to wonder why it wasn't working like EZplayer. -- Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette http://www.gatortraks.com/forum http://www.gatortraks.com |