PowerPoint in WVPC
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From: Karl E. Peterson on 8 Apr 2010 21:48 Steve Rindsberg wrote: > In article <#GCBQtP0KHA.4548(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> Steve Rindsberg wrote: >>> In article <#WpFg0C0KHA.6112(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>>> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >>>>> Running Office 2007 <gag> in Windows 7 x64, so loaded Office 2003 in a >>>>> WVPC VM as I still need to support and develop for that platform as >>>>> well. >>>>> >>>>> All is good except... When I flick PPT into presentation mode, it >>>>> centers the show smackdab in the middle of the virtual display -- that >>>>> is, spread across both physical displays and split down the middle. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone know of anyway to force it to use one or the other, as it does >>>>> when it's installed native? >>>> >>>> Seeing no response in the VirtualPC group, I'm now thinking I should've >>>> also cross-posted over into a PowerPoint group as well. >>>> >>>> For the PowerPoint folks: WVPC is "Windows Virtual PC" which allows >>>> virtual XP machines to be setup in Windows 7. In this case, PPT2003 is >>>> being run "seemlessly", making it appear that it's running as an >>>> installed app in the Win7 install, rather than within the XP VM. >>> >>> "seemlessly"? Shouldn't that be "shamelessly"? Or maybe "seamlessly". >>> Yeah. That's the ticket. Sans Seams. >> >> Heh, well, sometimes it seems to work better than others? >> >>> So we try this on for size: in seamless mode, do you/can you set the >>> display resolution of the virtual machine? >> >> No. It just seems to use the entire virtual screen coordinates, not >> differentiating between individual monitors. >> >> As I google about more and more, it's starting to seem like a "known >> limitation/feature." For example: >> >> "Virtual application windows being centered across two monitors is a >> known limitation. The application opens in span mode and treats the 2 >> monitors as 1 big screen, hence the centering." >> ~ >> http://blogs.technet.com/windows_vpc/archive/2009/08/04/windows-virtual-pc.aspx >> >> (I can't tell if that's an official MSFT mouth speaking, there, or >> not?) >> >>> I'm thinking that there might be some >>> kind of disconnect between the VM's display rez and the rez of the >>> physical machine hosting it. What happens if you set the two to match? >>> Assuming that's possible. >> >> These things are weird. They operate just as though they are installed >> on the host. Other than having the whole XP theme thing going on, with >> nary a sign of Aero, of course. > > Hm. Use VMWare instead? ;-) Does it have the seamless operation? -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Robert Comer on 8 Apr 2010 22:39 >> Hm. Use VMWare instead? ;-) > > Does it have the seamless operation? Not quite as good as XP Mode -- it's called Unity, and it's also pretty slow. (it uses screen scraping rather than RDP) -- Bob Comer
From: Steve Rindsberg on 9 Apr 2010 11:17 [snippedy-doodah snippedy-yay] > > Hm. Use VMWare instead? ;-) > > Does it have the seamless operation? Unless you beat it pretty good, it's not even aware of the extended desktop. The copy of Windows running inside it is restricted to the VMware window (which can be full screen on one or another of the monitors). For example, if you doubleclick the title bar of the VMWare app, it expands to fill whichever monitor it's *mostly* on; it doesn't try to fill both monitors (ie, the expanded desktop). If you want it to do that, you'd make the app less than maximized then manually drag and size it to the desired shape/size. I think that as of about version 6.5 or so, VMWare can use multiple monitors but I haven't had reason/chance to mess with it. ============================== PPT Frequently Asked Questions http://www.pptfaq.com/ PPTools add-ins for PowerPoint http://www.pptools.com/
From: Karl E. Peterson on 13 Apr 2010 20:15 Steve Rindsberg wrote: > [snippedy-doodah snippedy-yay] > >>> Hm. Use VMWare instead? ;-) >> >> Does it have the seamless operation? > > Unless you beat it pretty good, it's not even aware of the extended desktop. > The copy of Windows running inside it is restricted to the VMware window > (which can be full screen on one or another of the monitors). For example, > if you doubleclick the title bar of the VMWare app, it expands to fill > whichever monitor it's *mostly* on; it doesn't try to fill both monitors > (ie, the expanded desktop). If you want it to do that, you'd make the app > less than maximized then manually drag and size it to the desired > shape/size. Okay, that sounds a whole like running ordinary VirtualPC VMs. They've actually done something kind of crazy with what they now call "Windows Virtual PC" that can be added onto non-consumer versions of Windows 7. It makes it appear the software running in an XP VM is actually running on Windows 7. But it fails to pass along the separate monitor information. It's very cool, and at times very frustrating. Funny how that goes, huh? -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Karl E. Peterson on 13 Apr 2010 20:16
Robert Comer wrote: >>> Hm. Use VMWare instead? ;-) >> >> Does it have the seamless operation? > > Not quite as good as XP Mode -- it's called Unity, and it's also pretty slow. > (it uses screen scraping rather than RDP) Okay, that's good to know. So we're left just waiting for MSFT to accurately pass the monitor metrics through to the guest VM, then. :-( -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |