Pricelessware List 2009 - General Discussion Thread
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From: Bjorn S. on 24 Sep 2009 00:30 Ron May wrote in <p348a5tgghpbe9bfl779j8284a4fk6rimi(a)4ax.com>: >Use this thread to discuss whatever you think is relevant to the >subject line. I will monitor this and other PL2009 threads through >Google Groups so I don't miss any posts. So many good programs out there, so much noise in here. I suggest prolonging the nomination phase with at least two weeks beyond the currently announced date (27.september 2009), preferably a bit longer, if - *and only if* you are willing to continue your good work! Not suggesting this because I have not found the time to participate much this year my self, but from observing the noise level and at the same time thinking in general that a selection process of this kind should ideally be left up and running for...well at least a couple of months. -- All the best, Bjorn S. - I only post via <news.individual.net> or <news.broadpark.no>!
From: Ron May on 24 Sep 2009 08:29 On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:30:59 +0200, Bjorn S. wrote: > Ron May wrote in <p348a5tgghpbe9bfl779j8284a4fk6rimi(a)4ax.com>: > >>Use this thread to discuss whatever you think is relevant to the >>subject line. I will monitor this and other PL2009 threads through >>Google Groups so I don't miss any posts. > > So many good programs out there, so much noise in here. I suggest > prolonging the nomination phase with at least two weeks beyond the > currently announced date (27.september 2009), preferably a bit longer, > if - *and only if* you are willing to continue your good work! Good idea, Bjorn. Now if we could only get REM to cough up the donations. <no grin> -- Ron M. Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls. New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ Try to ignore subject lines that are not freeware related.
From: Franklin on 24 Sep 2009 12:11 Yrrah wrote: > Ron May <mayron(a)hotmail.com>: > >> Use this thread to discuss whatever you think is relevant to the >> subject line. I will monitor this and other PL2009 threads through >> Google Groups so I don't miss any posts. > > I think the whole thing should be called off. There are too many > nominations from people we have not seen here before / various sock > puppets. > > Yrrah > Yrrah, I think the number of socks in ACF hasn't changed much. Previous Pricelessware selections have probably been just as badly plagued with socks as this year. Perhaps it wasn't so obvious then. I think a nym or sock is still able to nominate good freeeware. ("Bare Bottom" recently seemed to make some sincere nominations and seemed to have used the apps.) The problem is if someone uses multiple identities to make both the nomination and the seconding and then later fakes the number of supporters of an app in discussions. There doesn't seem to be much motivation for doing that other than trying to damage the reliability of the Pricelessware list. Even then, that would only benefit someone who might want to replace the PLW list with his own. Hmmm. Maybe I'm starting to talk myself into thinking there is a danger after all!
From: Bjorn S. on 28 Sep 2009 22:07 I nominated Lightbox Free in mid:<7i2cvhF2uvc95U1(a)mid.individual.net>. He who seconded it commented: >I luv it and use it in the office. (gives one nagscreen on start up - >asks if I want to use the free version - probably can be gotten rid of >but not worth the hassle) Indeed a nice program, but alas a nag screen on startup. Duh, I did not think about this when I prepared my nomination, only considered the value of the program for its features and ease of use. Haven't payed much attention to the nag screen before either, probably since I don't use this program as often I do my mail, browsers, text editors and so on. Had the programs I use every day had similar nags...I would have ended up with pen and paper instead... In short the nag-screen did not enter my mind. But it has now. And so I am having second thoughts. Ditto for a another program I submitted, in mid:<7i2eg7F2t7j2jU1(a)mid.individual.net>, the VSO Image Resizer, which also have been seconded. Also a very nice program per se, also one I do not use very often....and unfortunately also one that comes with nag on startup. Again, it simply did not enter my mind when I roamed through my programs and prepared my submissions (I arrived late)... So what to do? The nomination phase is over and the two programs have been seconded. should I just hope that no one will vote for these two programs , or just go ram my head against a wall somewhere? If the two programs makes it, I guess my final option will be to argue and vote against them under the ware ballot. That is if my head is still in one piece when the time comes... -- All the best, Bjorn S. - I only post via <news.individual.net> or <news.broadpark.no>!
From: Ron May on 28 Sep 2009 23:59
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 04:07:53 +0200, Bjorn S. <bsusenet(a)broadpark.no> wrote: > So what to do? The nomination phase is over and the two programs have > been seconded. should I just hope that no one will vote for these two > programs , or just go ram my head against a wall somewhere? If the two > programs makes it, I guess my final option will be to argue and vote > against them under the ware ballot. That is if my head is still in one > piece when the time comes... At this point, I'd say it's probably your call. I haven't tried either program so it's difficult to judge whether they're nagware. You can withdraw the nominations or leave things as they are for now and see what happens. In any event, thanks for the heads up. -- Ron M. Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls. New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/ and try to ignore the threads that aren't freeware related. |