From: TaliesinSoft on
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:17 -0600, Nick Naym wrote (in article
<C720B591.4B6C6%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>):

[responding to my having stated in the preceding posting in this thread]

>> Also, and again at the meeting last night, I queried those in attendance
>> and what seemed to be a great majority did indeed use the hyperlinks as a
>> means of navigation in the document.
>>
>
> I don't know why you seemingly find it necessary to repeatedly "justify"
> your desire to use PDF format and its hyperlinks to create your
> newsletter.

There have been several postings in this thread critical of PDF as a means of
document distribution and I felt the need to yet again "justify" that form of
publication of the newsletter.

--
James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com

From: Nick Naym on
In article 0001HW.C720AB500016B850B02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET, TaliesinSoft
at taliesinsoft(a)me.com wrote on 11/11/09 6:56 PM:

> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:40:17 -0600, Nick Naym wrote (in article
> <C720B591.4B6C6%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>):
>
> [responding to my having stated in the preceding posting in this thread]
>
>>> Also, and again at the meeting last night, I queried those in attendance
>>> and what seemed to be a great majority did indeed use the hyperlinks as a
>>> means of navigation in the document.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know why you seemingly find it necessary to repeatedly "justify"
>> your desire to use PDF format and its hyperlinks to create your
>> newsletter.
>
> There have been several postings in this thread critical of PDF as a means of
> document distribution and I felt the need to yet again "justify" that form of
> publication of the newsletter.

If they had anything that could help resolve the difficulties you've run
into, they would've already offered -- after all, that's what these NGs are
supposed to be primarily all about. The fact that all they have offered is
criticism (for whatever their own personal choice/taste/rationalizations)
should tell you clearly that they will not/can not offer any help, and no
amount of "justification" on your part will change that.

(FWIW, I for one prefer PDF formatted documents -- on the web and off the
web.)

--
iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)

From: dorayme on
In article <C7211633.4B6E9%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> If they had anything that could help resolve the difficulties you've run
> into, they would've already offered -- after all, that's what these NGs are
> supposed to be primarily all about. The fact that all they have offered is
> criticism (for whatever their own personal choice/taste/rationalizations)
> should tell you clearly that they will not/can not offer any help, and no
> amount of "justification" on your part will change that.
>
> (FWIW, I for one prefer PDF formatted documents -- on the web and off the
> web.)

Sometimes there comes a point where one should be assessing the
worthwhileness of solving a problem rather than avoiding it. This is the
bit you don't get.

Your *general* statement that you prefer PDF to a website for on 'the
web' (you mean 'on screen') is either a statement of extreme ignorance
and foolishness or a world weary exasperation at the number of badly
made web pages and sites. And I would hate to guess in your case,
perhaps if I looked up sites on sheepophilia, I would gain some insight
into your condition, I have heard anecdotal evidence that this damages
the brain.

--
dorayme
From: Nick Naym on
In article doraymeRidThis-B8DBD4.09102813112009(a)news.albasani.net, dorayme
at doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au wrote on 11/12/09 5:10 PM:

> In article <C7211633.4B6E9%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
> Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If they had anything that could help resolve the difficulties you've run
>> into, they would've already offered -- after all, that's what these NGs are
>> supposed to be primarily all about. The fact that all they have offered is
>> criticism (for whatever their own personal choice/taste/rationalizations)
>> should tell you clearly that they will not/can not offer any help, and no
>> amount of "justification" on your part will change that.
>>
>> (FWIW, I for one prefer PDF formatted documents -- on the web and off the
>> web.)
>
> Sometimes there comes a point where one should be assessing the
> worthwhileness of solving a problem rather than avoiding it. This is the
> bit you don't get.
>
> Your *general* statement that you prefer PDF to a website for on 'the
> web' (you mean 'on screen')

"On the web" is what I meant; "off the web" means "offline but onscreen" as
well as a format for creating and saving documents for exchange or printing.

> is either a statement of extreme ignorance
> and foolishness or a world weary exasperation at the number of badly
> made web pages and sites.

The fact that some folks lack the skills necessary to create decent web
pages or sites is irrelevant to the discussion: PDF was designed to be a
platform-independent format for representing documents that are to be viewed
and transmitted electronically as well as saved and printed. Because some
folks don't know how to properly apply the format is not a reason for
dismissing it as undesirable, and telling Jim that he shouldn't be using it
for his newsletter. _That_, sir, is arrogance born of "extreme ignorance and
foolishness."


> And I would hate to guess in your case,
> perhaps if I looked up sites on sheepophilia, I would gain some insight
> into your condition, I have heard anecdotal evidence that this damages
> the brain.


For someone who is so quick to accuse others of "casting aspersions" and
soiling your so-called "reputation," you sure are not adverse to sprinkling
your posts with insults. You remind me of the self-righteous TV Evangelists
who condemn their "flocks" for "sinning," while they themselves commit
adultery and engage in pedophilia.

Have you humped any small woodland creatures lately? ;P (A "yes" or "no"
answer will suffice.)

--
iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)

From: dorayme on
In article <C7246E22.4B855%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you humped any small woodland creatures lately? ;P (A "yes" or "no"
> answer will suffice.)

No.

--
dorayme