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From: dorayme on 14 Nov 2009 15:29 In article <C7246E22.4B855%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > In article doraymeRidThis-B8DBD4.09102813112009(a)news.albasani.net, dorayme > at doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au wrote on 11/12/09 5:10 PM: > > > In article <C7211633.4B6E9%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, > > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Your *general* statement that you prefer PDF to a website for on 'the > > web' (you mean 'on screen') > > "On the web" is what I meant; "off the web" means "offline but onscreen" > well as a format for creating and saving documents for exchange or printing. > Bullshit. "Off the web" can mean a printed copy, it can mean rooting a sheep in your local pub, it can mean anything at all as long as it is not something online. Chuck that prissy dictionary in your head out. > > is either a statement of extreme ignorance > > and foolishness or a world weary exasperation at the number of badly > > made web pages and sites. > > The fact that some folks lack the skills necessary to create decent web > pages or sites is irrelevant to the discussion: PDF was designed to be a > platform-independent format for representing documents that are to be viewed > and transmitted electronically as well as saved and printed. It was not well designed from the ground up to be something to be viewed on a screen. The wide choice of browsers, the technology of HTML and CSS is altogether better geared for conveying *information* across the internet than PDF. Don't get me wrong, I love PDFs. I keep several as pets. > Because some > folks don't know how to properly apply the format is not a reason for > dismissing it as undesirable, and telling Jim that he shouldn't be using it > for his newsletter. _That_, sir, is arrogance born of "extreme ignorance and > foolishness." > I did not exactly tell him that he "shouldn't", it was more a gentle suggestion, to avoid the inconvenience of my mission impossible team turning up and shooting his dog, stealing all his latest gear, and grabbing all in his liquor cabinet in a night raid. Why don't you loosen up! No wonder I like to tease you a bit. It has not helped you that Michele (a valued sparring partner) won't take a single bait from me these days. In other words, that leaves you! > > For someone who is so quick to accuse others of "casting aspersions" and > soiling your so-called "reputation," you sure are not adverse to sprinkling > your posts with insults. I am not quick to do this at all. I hold my powder admirably in my own opinion, it is just that it appropriate to expend a bit of it with you (have a good look at what you have said to me to trigger it off). > You remind me of the self-righteous TV Evangelists > who condemn their "flocks" for "sinning," while they themselves commit > adultery and engage in pedophilia. > I resent this a great deal, no one is fairer, more helpful, lovely in all respects than me and I demand you withdraw it. In the meantime I am going to take a nice bath, the taps are running my own glory... -- dorayme
From: Tony Lawrence on 14 Nov 2009 15:30 On Nov 14, 3:06 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <C7246E22.4B855%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote: > > > Have you humped any small woodland creatures lately? ;P (A "yes" or "no" > > answer will suffice.) > > No. > > -- > dorayme My, a lot of rancor here. PDF has been the obvious choice when the intent is to be able to display and or print it and have it appear precisely as the author intended. I say "has been" because for certain subsets like e-books, there are emerging choices that may be better (epub, for example). My gripe with PDF is that it is often used where there is no good reason to use it AND the information would be better in a different format - whether that's HTML, a text file or a CSV file, I've seen $#! @@-ing idiots use PDF when they shouldn't have. That's probably why people get so ticked off. When I have to download a PDF for information that should have been HTML, I'm annoyed. When precise printing is required and it's NOT PDF, I can be just as annoyed. One format does not fit all.
From: dorayme on 14 Nov 2009 15:41 In article <b397050c-0ff6-4925-a7ce-3fcbc0a1bf69(a)g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Tony Lawrence <pcunix(a)gmail.com> wrote: .... > PDF has been the obvious choice when the intent is to be able to > display and or print it and have it appear precisely as the author > intended. > Sometimes it is unwise *to desire* to make things appear *exactly* the same for everyone. > I say "has been" because for certain subsets like e-books, there are > emerging choices that may be better (epub, for example). > Yes, it is an interesting new field and may have to be more tailored to actual hardware. > My gripe with PDF is that it is often used where there is no good > reason to use it AND the information would be better in a different > format - whether that's HTML, a text file or a CSV file, I've seen $#! > @@-ing idiots use PDF when they shouldn't have. > > That's probably why people get so ticked off. When I have to > download a PDF for information that should have been HTML, I'm > annoyed. When precise printing is required and it's NOT PDF, I can > be just as annoyed. > > One format does not fit all. No argument from me on this. Well said. -- dorayme
From: Mike Rosenberg on 14 Nov 2009 16:19 Tony Lawrence <pcunix(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My, a lot of rancor here. Sometimes I think we just shouldn't let these kids sit at the same table. -- My latest dance performance <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvB98fgse-s> Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: dorayme on 14 Nov 2009 17:08
In article <1j96inh.1xai8nrz50triN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>, mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote: > Tony Lawrence <pcunix(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > My, a lot of rancor here. > > Sometimes I think we just shouldn't let these kids sit at the same > table. It is better that we sit where you can keep an eye on us, no telling what we might get up to otherwise... <g> -- dorayme |