Problems with Annotated Hyperlinks in Preview Document
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From: TaliesinSoft on 5 Nov 2009 12:38 I create a monthly newsletter for Capitol Macintosh here in Austin, Texas. The newsletter is created with Pages using the Page Layout mode. After the newsletter is completed in Pages it is exported as a PDF document, which is then opened in Preview and a number of internal to the document hyperlinks are added using Preview's annotation capabilities. These annotations create a click-point link to another page in the same PDF document. Subsequent to the annotating, when the document is viewed in either Preview or Adobe Reader the internal hyperlinks work as expected, but only if the View options in each of the readers is set to "single page" mode. If the view options are set otherwise the hyperlinks added by annotation will take one to the wrong page or not work at all. The most recent issue of the newsletter can be downloaded at <http://www.capmac.org/newsletters/CapMac_Offline-2009-11.pdf>. I'm curious as to whether other PDF readers, such as Acrobat, also experience this problem. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: dorayme on 5 Nov 2009 17:42 In article <0001HW.C71869B2000C43F8B02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > I create a monthly newsletter for Capitol Macintosh here in Austin, Texas. > The newsletter is created with Pages using the Page Layout mode. After the > newsletter is completed in Pages it is exported as a PDF document, which is > then opened in Preview and a number of internal to the document hyperlinks > are added using Preview's annotation capabilities. These annotations create a > click-point link to another page in the same PDF document. > > Subsequent to the annotating, when the document is viewed in either Preview > or Adobe Reader the internal hyperlinks work as expected, but only if the > View options in each of the readers is set to "single page" mode. Not in my Preview. Links work fine when not in single page view. mail address links open in Mail, other links open in Safari. Same with the Schubert plugin PDF on my Safari. And same with Acrobat Pro. > If the view > options are set otherwise the hyperlinks added by annotation will take one to > the wrong page or not work at all. > > The most recent issue of the newsletter can be downloaded at > <http://www.capmac.org/newsletters/CapMac_Offline-2009-11.pdf>. > > I'm curious as to whether other PDF readers, such as Acrobat, also experience > this problem. -- dorayme
From: TaliesinSoft on 6 Nov 2009 00:12 On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:42:58 -0600, dorayme wrote (in article <doraymeRidThis-01E0C5.09425806112009(a)news.albasani.net>): > In article <0001HW.C71869B2000C43F8B02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > >> I create a monthly newsletter for Capitol Macintosh here in Austin, >> Texas. The newsletter is created with Pages using the Page Layout mode. >> After the newsletter is completed in Pages it is exported as a PDF >> document, which is then opened in Preview and a number of internal to the >> document hyperlinks are added using Preview's annotation capabilities. >> These annotations create a click-point link to another page in the same >> PDF document. >> >> Subsequent to the annotating, when the document is viewed in either >> Preview or Adobe Reader the internal hyperlinks work as expected, but >> only if the View options in each of the readers is set to "single page" >> mode. > > Not in my Preview. Links work fine when not in single page view. mail > address links open in Mail, other links open in Safari. > > Same with the Schubert plugin PDF on my Safari. And same with Acrobat Pro. > >> If the view options are set otherwise the hyperlinks added by annotation >> will take one to the wrong page or not work at all. >> >> The most recent issue of the newsletter can be downloaded at >> <http://www.capmac.org/newsletters/CapMac_Offline-2009-11.pdf>. >> >> I'm curious as to whether other PDF readers, such as Acrobat, also >> experience this problem. > I appreciate your taking the time to run some tests and report the results. I may not have been clear as I should have been about the hyperlinks that fail to work correctly all of the time. These are the hyperlinks that take you to another page in the same document. They are.... a) each line in the table of contents which takes you to the appropriate page. b) the left and right pointing wedges in the gray bar on each page. The right facing wedge takes you to the following page and the left facing wedge takes you to the preceding page. An exception being the left facing wedge on the first page which takes you to the last page and the right facing wedge on the last page which takes you to the first page. c) The word "CapMac Offline" in the gray bar on each page which takes you back to the table of contents page. d) The little square at the end of a multi-page article which takes you to the opening page for that article. e) The "continued on" and "continued from" text which takes you to the next or preceding page as appropriate. f) The month of the issue in the gray bar on the table of contents page which takes you to a similar page but with the contents listing removed and the background picture having full opacity. The reverse effect is on the same month of issue in the gray bar on that page. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: Nick Naym on 6 Nov 2009 01:04 In article 0001HW.C7190C4C00325FC5B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET, TaliesinSoft at taliesinsoft(a)me.com wrote on 11/6/09 12:12 AM: .... .... > > I may not have been clear as I should have been about the hyperlinks that > fail to work correctly all of the time. These are the hyperlinks that take > you to another page in the same document. They are.... > > a) each line in the table of contents which takes you to the appropriate > page. > > b) the left and right pointing wedges in the gray bar on each page. The right > facing wedge takes you to the following page and the left facing wedge takes > you to the preceding page. An exception being the left facing wedge on the > first page which takes you to the last page and the right facing wedge on the > last page which takes you to the first page. > > c) The word "CapMac Offline" in the gray bar on each page which takes you > back to the table of contents page. > > d) The little square at the end of a multi-page article which takes you to > the opening page for that article. > > e) The "continued on" and "continued from" text which takes you to the next > or preceding page as appropriate. > > f) The month of the issue in the gray bar on the table of contents page which > takes you to a similar page but with the contents listing removed and the > background picture having full opacity. The reverse effect is on the same > month of issue in the gray bar on that page. > It works as advertised on my machine in both Preview and Acrobat Pro. -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)
From: dorayme on 6 Nov 2009 01:25
In article <0001HW.C7190C4C00325FC5B01029BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:42:58 -0600, dorayme wrote (in article > <doraymeRidThis-01E0C5.09425806112009(a)news.albasani.net>): > > > In article <0001HW.C71869B2000C43F8B02A89BF(a)News.Individual.NET>, > > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > > Links work fine when not in single page view. mail > > address links open in Mail, other links open in Safari. > > > > Same with the Schubert plugin PDF on my Safari. And same with Acrobat Pro. > > > > I may not have been clear as I should have been about the hyperlinks that > fail to work correctly all of the time. These are the hyperlinks that take > you to another page in the same document. They are.... > I tried all the wrong links! <http://www.capmac.org/newsletters/CapMac_Offline-2009-11.pdf> None of these links work properly under any conditions (not even single page view) in my Schubert plugin. In my Preview they work under the conditions you noted but not in single page view. And in Acrobat Pro, things work in double page spread but not properly otherwise. I imagine a lot has to happen for such links to work well across different page views and apps. If you cannot solve, don't worry. But do not make them links. The PDF is not so long. And in Acrobat and Preview and other apps, there are facilities to navigate by page (either via thumbnail panel or other means). But make it clear, as you do really what is on what page in your index. (It is horrible technology for screens, a camel adapting from desert life to the city, whereas HTML is exactly the right technology for this. The main point for a PDF is to print it. And links are not part of the game there. Be nice though, you touch a link on the page and the papers fly around till the right page is on top for you! <g>) -- dorayme |