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From: Sam Wormley on 6 Nov 2009 13:49 kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote: > > I challenge you to calculate the gravitational time dilation using SR/ > GR when you are given the measured data of Faa and Fab. > > Ken Seto > I gave you the input parameters for GR, now you give the measured data for Faa and Fab. Fair is Fair!
From: Sam Wormley on 6 Nov 2009 13:51 kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote: > On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> kenseto wrote: >>> A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute >>> Motion" is availble in the following link: >>> http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf >>> This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect >>> absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the >>> Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained >>> by absolute motion. >>> Ken Seto >> Notice what happens to A and B, Ken! >> http://xkcd.com/265/ > > Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately. > There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's > clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running > slow compared to A's clock. > > Ken Seto That implies that A and B are not the same, violating the Copernican Principle among other things!
From: Sam Wormley on 6 Nov 2009 14:05 kenseto(a)erinet.com wrote: > On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> Notice what happens to A and B, Ken! >> http://xkcd.com/265/ > > Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately. > There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's > clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running > slow compared to A's clock. > > Ken Seto I've tried to clarify the language below for you, Seto, so that you will see neither A or B is preferred or special in any way. Assume that A and B have identical atomic clocks. That means they tick at the same rate. Now let us suppose that A and B have relative motion, such that their velocity with respect to each other, v > 0, and that dv/dt = 0 . Disregarding any Doppler shift, A measures B's time dilation as ât_B' = γ ât_B and B measures A's time dilation as ât_A' = γ ât_A where ât represent a time interval, v is the relative velocity between A and B, and γ = 1/â(1-v^2/c^2) .
From: kenseto on 6 Nov 2009 15:19 On Nov 6, 1:51 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > kens...(a)erinet.com wrote: > > On Nov 5, 12:57 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > >> kenseto wrote: > >>> A paper entitled "Proposed and Past Experiments Detecting Absolute > >>> Motion" is availble in the following link: > >>>http://www.geocities.com/kn_seto/2008experiment.pdf > >>> This paper describes proposed new and doable experiments to detect > >>> absolute motion. Also the results of past experiments such as the > >>> Photoelectric Experiment and the Double Slit Experiment are explained > >>> by absolute motion. > >>> Ken Seto > >> Notice what happens to A and B, Ken! > >> http://xkcd.com/265/ > > > Wormy you are loosing it I urge that you go see a doctor immediately. > > There is no mutual time dilation. When comparing two clocks: if A's > > clock is running fast compared to B's clock then B's clock is running > > slow compared to A's clock. > > > Ken Seto > > That implies that A and B are not the same, violating the Copernican > Principle among other things! What is Copernican Principle???? BTW what I said doen't violate anything. - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: PD on 6 Nov 2009 15:33
On Nov 6, 2:19 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > What is Copernican Principle???? BTW what I said doen't violate > anything. Closely related to the knee-jerk reflex commonly tested in family doctors' offices, the Seto-jerk response is to say, "What I said doesn't violate XXXX. What is XXXX?" Seto's mouth is now incapable of forming the word "oops". |