Proposed experiment for detection of absolute motion
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From: Autymn D. C. on 2 Aug 2010 05:05 On Aug 1, 4:51 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > ... And your point-by-point summary of your purported disproofs are > where? Read my posts. Your summary list will be very long indeed. > NoEinstein Jul 20
From: NoEinstein on 3 Aug 2010 10:59 On Aug 2, 5:04 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On Aug 1, 4:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 9:27 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > On Jul 28, 5:19 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:17 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > Dear Aut...: If I missed an important reply of yours, I'm sorry. > > > > Simply copy and paste it again. NE > > > > Don't write under my header, fuckwit, and go back in the thread and > > > read it. > > > Dear Autymn: You don't have the smarts to be making a '+new post'. > > Sorry if I offend your non-intellect. NoEinstein > > I made a new post not long ago, and earlier this year. Stop thwartin > the thread, shyster cretin. All of your arguments are nothing. > > -Aut Dear Aut....: And YOUR arguments contributing in any way the science are where? NoEinstein
From: Autymn D. C. on 6 Aug 2010 07:37 On Aug 3, 7:59 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > On Aug 2, 5:04 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 4:54 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Aug 1, 9:27 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 28, 5:19 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 26, 4:17 am, "Autymn D. C." <lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Aut...: If I missed an important reply of yours, I'm sorry. > > > > > Simply copy and paste it again. NE > > > > > Don't write under my header, fuckwit, and go back in the thread and > > > > read it. > > > > Dear Autymn: You don't have the smarts to be making a '+new post'. > > > Sorry if I offend your non-intellect. NoEinstein > > > I made a new post not long ago, and earlier this year. Stop thwartin > > the thread, shyster cretin. All of your arguments are nothing. > > > -Aut > > Dear Aut....: And YOUR arguments contributing in any way the science > are where? NoEinstein in which?
From: Darwin123 on 6 Aug 2010 11:52 On Jul 10, 12:57 pm, GSS <gurcharn_san...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative > and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of > reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other > inertial frames, is ruled out. However, we may define an absolute or > universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to > the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of > propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that > frame. There is not one unique center of mass for the entire universe. GR indicates that the center of mass of the universe doesn't have to be unique even in a finite universe. Note that the center of mass in an infinite universe is not uniquely defined even in a Newtonian universe. If the universe is infinite in extent, the definition of center of mass results in an indeterminate ratio. In order to make the center of mass of the universe unique, you have to first come up with a definition for center of mass that is uniquely defined. The definition itself has to provide an experimental criterion in order to be physical. If the universe is finite, then maybe there is a unique center of mass for the universe as a whole. Yes, there could be a center of mass for the universe. In principle, experiments that demonstrate the existence of an absolute frame should help us find the exact position of the center of mass of the universe. There could even be experiments done on earth, without telescopes, that could help us find the location of the center of mass relative to any location on the surface of the earth. One may be able to locate this center with telescopes. Therefore, suppose that the center of our galaxy was the center of mass of the universe. What experimental results would be different at this center than in the center of any other galaxy? Better yet, suppose the center of mass of the universe was between galaxies. How would the laws of physics be different at this center than at any other point between galaxies in the universe?
From: Androcles on 6 Aug 2010 12:11
"Darwin123" <drosen0000(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:20000f97-5b18-4a13-b17f-07bffaa366bd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 10, 12:57 pm, GSS <gurcharn_san...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "According to special theory of relativity, all motion is relative > and existence of any privileged or absolute inertial frame of > reference, which could be practically distinguished from all other > inertial frames, is ruled out. However, we may define an absolute or > universal reference frame as the one which is at rest with respect to > the center of mass of the universe and assume the speed c of > propagation of light to be an isotropic universal constant in that > frame. There is not one unique center of mass for the entire universe. GR indicates that the center of mass of the universe doesn't have to be unique even in a finite universe. Note that the center of mass in an infinite universe is not uniquely defined even in a Newtonian universe. If the universe is infinite in extent, the definition of center of mass results in an indeterminate ratio. In order to make the center of mass of the universe unique, you have to first come up with a definition for center of mass that is uniquely defined. The definition itself has to provide an experimental criterion in order to be physical. If the universe is finite, then maybe there is a unique center of mass for the universe as a whole. Yes, there could be a center of mass for the universe. In principle, experiments that demonstrate the existence of an absolute frame should help us find the exact position of the center of mass of the universe. There could even be experiments done on earth, without telescopes, that could help us find the location of the center of mass relative to any location on the surface of the earth. One may be able to locate this center with telescopes. Therefore, suppose that the center of our galaxy was the center of mass of the universe. What experimental results would be different at this center than in the center of any other galaxy? Better yet, suppose the center of mass of the universe was between galaxies. How would the laws of physics be different at this center than at any other point between galaxies in the universe? =========================================================== There is not one unique Easter Bunny for the entire USA. GS indicates that the Easter Bunny of the USA doesn't have to be unique even in a finite USA. Note that the Easter Bunny in an infinite USA is not uniquely defined even in a French USA. If the USA is infinite in extent, the definition of Easter Bunny results in an indeterminate ratio. In order to make the Easter Bunny of the USA unique, you have to first come up with a definition for Easter Bunny that is uniquely defined. The definition itself has to provide an experimental criterion in order to be physical. If the USA is finite, then maybe there is a unique Easter Bunny for the USA as a whole. Yes, there could be an Easter Bunny for the USA. In principle, experiments that demonstrate the existence of an absolute egg should help us find the exact position of the Easter Bunny of the USA. There could even be experiments done on earth, without telescopes, that could help us find the location of the Easter Bunny relative to any location on the surface of the earth. One may be able to locate this Bunny with telescopes. Therefore, suppose that the bunny of our continent was the Easter Bunny of the USA. What experimental results would be different at this bunny than in the bunny of any other continent? Better yet, suppose the Easter Bunny of the USA was between oceans. How would the laws of physics be different at this bunny than at any other point between islands in the USA? |