Proton Radius Cannot Be Derived From Standard Model
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From: mpc755 on 26 May 2010 16:30 On May 26, 4:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 2:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically. > > > > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a > > > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces > > > > > > the electron into a higher orbital. > > > > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > > > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > > > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > > > > atom. > > > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be > > > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a > > > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION... > > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: > > Gee, you made a claim, I asked you a question about your claim, you do > not answer the question and instead ask me a question involving words > you don't know the meaning of. > > If there aren't answers to questions about your own ideas, then > perhaps you should just admit it. Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is different than Maxwell's displacement current - Mass is not conserved. The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter. - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. The material is mæther. Mæther has mass. Aether and matter have mass. Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. In E=mc^2, Energy is effect of matter transitioning to aether. Mass is conserved. My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself. In a double slit experiment the photon wave enters and exits both slits. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon 'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no interference. If detectors are placed at the exits to the slits the photon 'particle' is always detected exiting a single slit because the photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit. Mæther has mass. Aether and matter have mass. Aether and matter are different states of mæther. Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter and aether is energy. Mass is conserved.
From: spudnik on 26 May 2010 16:33 mm-mm good, maethertronically! > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > atom.
From: spudnik on 26 May 2010 16:34 unimpeachably, indysprovably correct, O Maetherwocky! > Correct. The electron is forced into a higher orbital because the > quantum of mæther occupies three dimensional space between the > electron and the nucleus of the atom.
From: BURT on 26 May 2010 16:34 On May 26, 1:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 26, 4:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 26, 2:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically. > > > > > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a > > > > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces > > > > > > > the electron into a higher orbital. > > > > > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher > > > > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies > > > > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the > > > > > atom. > > > > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be > > > > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a > > > > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION... > > > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: This is a good example of you having to be right rather than what is right. You insist that nobody has something as right as you. You are an hypocrite. Mitch Raemsch > > > Gee, you made a claim, I asked you a question about your claim, you do > > not answer the question and instead ask me a question involving words > > you don't know the meaning of. > > > If there aren't answers to questions about your own ideas, then > > perhaps you should just admit it. > > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature: > > - The future determining the past > - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing > - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair > - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits > simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having > a change in momentum. > - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is > different than Maxwell's displacement current > - Mass is not conserved. > > The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: > > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate > aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits > - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends > past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced > by the plates forces the plates together > - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. > When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its > spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, > the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. > - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate > aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits > - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by > matter. > - Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the > same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current. > - Matter and aether are different states of the same material. > The material is mæther. > Mæther has mass. > Aether and matter have mass. > Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. > In E=mc^2, Energy is effect of matter transitioning to aether. > Mass is conserved. > > My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave > through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of > mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a > quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself. > > In a double slit experiment the photon wave enters and exits both > slits. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The > photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters > the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon > 'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no > interference. If detectors are placed at the exits to the slits the > photon 'particle' is always detected exiting a single slit because the > photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit. > > Mæther has mass. > Aether and matter have mass. > Aether and matter are different states of mæther. > Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. > > Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the > mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The > physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter > and aether is energy. > > Mass is conserved.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 26 May 2010 16:37
On May 26, 4:15 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > it is important not to be gulled by various so-called paradoxes, > such as EPR, which are based on other paradoxes, > such as "the photon" in EPR. even the experimenters (and > theoretical propitiators) of EPR, do not say that information > can thereby surpass the speed of light; so, > what matter is this alleged paradox -- weren't EP&R really correct? > Yes, EP&R were correct. There is no instantaneous action at a distance. When a downgraded photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum must be maintained. That is why detecting on photon means its pair will always be detected with the opposite spin. > so, how does a wave "propagate aethertronically" through the medium > of space, and what happens to the electrons in it?... hey, progress; > no need of either of Newton's balls! > > > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be > > > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a > > > higher electron orbital of which you speak? > > - The future determining the past > > - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing > > - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair > > My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave > > through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of > > mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a > > quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself. > > By A.EINSTEINhttp://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > diminishes by L/c2." > > |