From: mpc755 on
On May 8, 8:21 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 3:37 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 3:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 8, 2:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 8, 12:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 8, 4:25 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 7, 8:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 7, 12:09 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2:06 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:24 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 6:24 pm, "Robert L. Oldershaw" <rlolders...(a)amherst.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2:22 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   A new paradigm already exists. The trouble is that nobody, other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than its sire, is willing or able to consider the merits of anything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that disagrees with the old one embedded in their mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad, but true.  However, while that is the situation now, who knows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the situation might be in the not-too-distant future?  The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ptolemaic paradigm eventually collapsed under the weight of its own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ungainly artificiality.  I predict the same will eventually happen to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the substandard paradigm, starting with the just-so story known as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quantum Chromodynamics, which is the weakest link of the substandard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > model.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >   The trouble with the present paradigm began with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ancient Greek Philosophers' secret answer "No"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to the unasked question "Is matter compressible".
> > > > > > > > > > > > >   THAT is the reason they created the theory that Matter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is made of particles traveling in an otherwise empty space.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Although atoms do exist and are particles, they are made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the same kind of COMPRESSIBLE matter that fills each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of them and the spaces between them too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >   Accordingly, the strongest link in the present paradigm,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the kinetic atomic theory, is itself the "weakest link" of all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > present models.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >   Once that is known, it becomes rather easy to work out the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanisms of gravity, light, quanta, and everything else that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > exists in the universe.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > glird
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is conceptually clearer to name the 'compressible' and to
> > > > > > > > > > > > describe matter and aether as states of it. I have named it mæther.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Matter is compressed mæther and aether is uncompressed mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think it is conceptually clearer to name flatworms and
> > > > > > > > > > > nematodes as states of mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > You would.
>
> > > > > > > > > Makes as much sense as what you're doing.
>
> > > > > > > > Physics today:
> > > > > > > > - mistakes mathematics for nature.
> > > > > > > > - mistakes energy for cause.
>
> > > > > > > Nah, it doesn't do either of those things. You should study up on what
> > > > > > > physics today really says.
>
> > > > > > It does both those things exactly. Now, I could ask you how a 'wave
> > > > > > function' physically enters, travels through, and exits the slits in a
> > > > > > double slit experiment and you would respond with my need to read many
> > > > > > books. However, the issue is a 'wave function' is a mathematical
> > > > > > construct
>
> > > > > No, it isn't. As I said, you should study up on what physics today
> > > > > really says, rather than looking up comic-book articles about stuff or
> > > > > making things up.
>
> > > > > > and has nothing to do with what physically occurs in a
> > > > > > double slit experiment. The fact that physics today can not understand
> > > > > > the difference between a mathematical representation of what occurs in
> > > > > > nature and what actually occurs in nature is the issue.
>
> > > > > > The same for 'energy'. 'Mainstream' physics today insists mass
> > > > > > converts to energy. When asked how that physically occurs in nature
> > > > > > there is no answer, or the answer is 'it just does'. 'Mainstream'
> > > > > > physics today is conceptually unable to understand what occurs
> > > > > > physically to the mass causes the effect which is described as energy.
> > > > > > 'Mainstream' physics can't even understand mass is conserved.
>
> > > > > I'm sorry, you said mainstream physics "mistakes energy for cause".
> > > > > Nothing like that is true, and nothing you've said in the paragraph
> > > > > above supports that contention.
>
> > > > That is exactly what 'mainstream' physics does.
>
> > > > I can ask you the simple question and your refusal to answer it is
> > > > evidence of 'mainstream' physics inability to understand energy is an
> > > > effect of what physically occurs.
>
> > > Don't be ridiculous. I'm not the spokesman for mainstream physics and
> > > I'm not your trained monkey.
> > > I don't answer your questions because you're a dirtbag, not because
> > > there is no mainstream physics understanding.
>
> > > Just because you are not provided something you sulk and whine and
> > > demand should not be evidence to you that the something doesn't exist..
> > > It just means that you are a whining baby with severe emotional
> > > problems who goes after things the wrong way.
>
> > > PD
>
> > You insist I read many, many books in order to 'understand' mass is
> > not conserved when mass is conserved.
>
> I don't insist anything of you. I suggest you do that, yes. I don't
> why you would steadfastly refuse to read something that is at least
> partially in opposition to your point of view. Do you only read that
> which you fully agree with? Are you afraid of reading?

Since I understand mass is conserved and, in terms of E=mc^2, energy
is the effect of mæther decompressing, I prefer to conceptually
understand how nature works physically and what causes the effect of
energy.

For example, any particle in a double slit experiment is ALWAYS
detected exiting a single slit. This is evidence the particle ALWAYS
enters a single slit. Since I understand the particle ALWAYS enters
and exits a single slit and it is the associated aether wave which
enters and exits multiple slits, I prefer to understand what occurs
physically in nature in a double slit experiment.
From: PD on
On May 8, 7:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 8:21 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 3:37 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 8, 3:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 8, 2:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 8, 12:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 8, 4:25 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 7, 8:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 7, 12:09 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2:06 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:24 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 6:24 pm, "Robert L. Oldershaw" <rlolders...(a)amherst.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2:22 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   A new paradigm already exists. The trouble is that nobody, other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than its sire, is willing or able to consider the merits of anything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that disagrees with the old one embedded in their mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad, but true.  However, while that is the situation now, who knows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the situation might be in the not-too-distant future?  The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ptolemaic paradigm eventually collapsed under the weight of its own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ungainly artificiality.  I predict the same will eventually happen to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the substandard paradigm, starting with the just-so story known as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quantum Chromodynamics, which is the weakest link of the substandard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > model.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   The trouble with the present paradigm began with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ancient Greek Philosophers' secret answer "No"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the unasked question "Is matter compressible".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   THAT is the reason they created the theory that Matter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is made of particles traveling in an otherwise empty space.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although atoms do exist and are particles, they are made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the same kind of COMPRESSIBLE matter that fills each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of them and the spaces between them too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Accordingly, the strongest link in the present paradigm,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the kinetic atomic theory, is itself the "weakest link" of all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > present models.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Once that is known, it becomes rather easy to work out the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanisms of gravity, light, quanta, and everything else that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > exists in the universe.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > glird
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is conceptually clearer to name the 'compressible' and to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > describe matter and aether as states of it. I have named it mæther.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter is compressed mæther and aether is uncompressed mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think it is conceptually clearer to name flatworms and
> > > > > > > > > > > > nematodes as states of mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > You would.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Makes as much sense as what you're doing.
>
> > > > > > > > > Physics today:
> > > > > > > > > - mistakes mathematics for nature.
> > > > > > > > > - mistakes energy for cause.
>
> > > > > > > > Nah, it doesn't do either of those things. You should study up on what
> > > > > > > > physics today really says.
>
> > > > > > > It does both those things exactly. Now, I could ask you how a 'wave
> > > > > > > function' physically enters, travels through, and exits the slits in a
> > > > > > > double slit experiment and you would respond with my need to read many
> > > > > > > books. However, the issue is a 'wave function' is a mathematical
> > > > > > > construct
>
> > > > > > No, it isn't. As I said, you should study up on what physics today
> > > > > > really says, rather than looking up comic-book articles about stuff or
> > > > > > making things up.
>
> > > > > > > and has nothing to do with what physically occurs in a
> > > > > > > double slit experiment. The fact that physics today can not understand
> > > > > > > the difference between a mathematical representation of what occurs in
> > > > > > > nature and what actually occurs in nature is the issue.
>
> > > > > > > The same for 'energy'. 'Mainstream' physics today insists mass
> > > > > > > converts to energy. When asked how that physically occurs in nature
> > > > > > > there is no answer, or the answer is 'it just does'. 'Mainstream'
> > > > > > > physics today is conceptually unable to understand what occurs
> > > > > > > physically to the mass causes the effect which is described as energy.
> > > > > > > 'Mainstream' physics can't even understand mass is conserved.
>
> > > > > > I'm sorry, you said mainstream physics "mistakes energy for cause".
> > > > > > Nothing like that is true, and nothing you've said in the paragraph
> > > > > > above supports that contention.
>
> > > > > That is exactly what 'mainstream' physics does.
>
> > > > > I can ask you the simple question and your refusal to answer it is
> > > > > evidence of 'mainstream' physics inability to understand energy is an
> > > > > effect of what physically occurs.
>
> > > > Don't be ridiculous. I'm not the spokesman for mainstream physics and
> > > > I'm not your trained monkey.
> > > > I don't answer your questions because you're a dirtbag, not because
> > > > there is no mainstream physics understanding.
>
> > > > Just because you are not provided something you sulk and whine and
> > > > demand should not be evidence to you that the something doesn't exist.
> > > > It just means that you are a whining baby with severe emotional
> > > > problems who goes after things the wrong way.
>
> > > > PD
>
> > > You insist I read many, many books in order to 'understand' mass is
> > > not conserved when mass is conserved.
>
> > I don't insist anything of you. I suggest you do that, yes. I don't
> > why you would steadfastly refuse to read something that is at least
> > partially in opposition to your point of view. Do you only read that
> > which you fully agree with? Are you afraid of reading?
>
> Since I understand mass is conserved

You have religious faith that this is the case, and you use as support
your own assertion that it is the case.

> and, in terms of E=mc^2, energy
> is the effect of mæther decompressing, I prefer to conceptually
> understand how nature works physically and what causes the effect of
> energy.

Yes, I know. You always do what you PREFER, whether that has any
usefulness or not.

>
> For example, any particle in a double slit experiment is ALWAYS
> detected exiting a single slit. This is evidence the particle ALWAYS
> enters a single slit. Since I understand the particle ALWAYS enters
> and exits a single slit and it is the associated aether wave which
> enters and exits multiple slits, I prefer to understand what occurs
> physically in nature in a double slit experiment.

From: mpc755 on
On May 8, 9:20 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 7:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 8:21 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 8, 3:37 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 8, 3:22 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 8, 2:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On May 8, 12:41 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On May 8, 1:08 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 8, 4:25 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 7, 8:33 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 7, 12:09 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 2:06 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 11:32 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 6, 12:24 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 6:24 pm, "Robert L. Oldershaw" <rlolders...(a)amherst.edu>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2:22 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   A new paradigm already exists. The trouble is that nobody, other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than its sire, is willing or able to consider the merits of anything
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that disagrees with the old one embedded in their mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad, but true.  However, while that is the situation now, who knows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what the situation might be in the not-too-distant future?  The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ptolemaic paradigm eventually collapsed under the weight of its own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ungainly artificiality.  I predict the same will eventually happen to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the substandard paradigm, starting with the just-so story known as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quantum Chromodynamics, which is the weakest link of the substandard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > model.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   The trouble with the present paradigm began with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Ancient Greek Philosophers' secret answer "No"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the unasked question "Is matter compressible".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   THAT is the reason they created the theory that Matter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is made of particles traveling in an otherwise empty space.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although atoms do exist and are particles, they are made
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the same kind of COMPRESSIBLE matter that fills each
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of them and the spaces between them too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Accordingly, the strongest link in the present paradigm,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the kinetic atomic theory, is itself the "weakest link" of all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > present models.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   Once that is known, it becomes rather easy to work out the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanisms of gravity, light, quanta, and everything else that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exists in the universe.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glird
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is conceptually clearer to name the 'compressible' and to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe matter and aether as states of it. I have named it mæther.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matter is compressed mæther and aether is uncompressed mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think it is conceptually clearer to name flatworms and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > nematodes as states of mæther.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > You would.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Makes as much sense as what you're doing.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Physics today:
> > > > > > > > > > - mistakes mathematics for nature.
> > > > > > > > > > - mistakes energy for cause.
>
> > > > > > > > > Nah, it doesn't do either of those things. You should study up on what
> > > > > > > > > physics today really says.
>
> > > > > > > > It does both those things exactly. Now, I could ask you how a 'wave
> > > > > > > > function' physically enters, travels through, and exits the slits in a
> > > > > > > > double slit experiment and you would respond with my need to read many
> > > > > > > > books. However, the issue is a 'wave function' is a mathematical
> > > > > > > > construct
>
> > > > > > > No, it isn't. As I said, you should study up on what physics today
> > > > > > > really says, rather than looking up comic-book articles about stuff or
> > > > > > > making things up.
>
> > > > > > > > and has nothing to do with what physically occurs in a
> > > > > > > > double slit experiment. The fact that physics today can not understand
> > > > > > > > the difference between a mathematical representation of what occurs in
> > > > > > > > nature and what actually occurs in nature is the issue.
>
> > > > > > > > The same for 'energy'. 'Mainstream' physics today insists mass
> > > > > > > > converts to energy. When asked how that physically occurs in nature
> > > > > > > > there is no answer, or the answer is 'it just does'. 'Mainstream'
> > > > > > > > physics today is conceptually unable to understand what occurs
> > > > > > > > physically to the mass causes the effect which is described as energy.
> > > > > > > > 'Mainstream' physics can't even understand mass is conserved.
>
> > > > > > > I'm sorry, you said mainstream physics "mistakes energy for cause".
> > > > > > > Nothing like that is true, and nothing you've said in the paragraph
> > > > > > > above supports that contention.
>
> > > > > > That is exactly what 'mainstream' physics does.
>
> > > > > > I can ask you the simple question and your refusal to answer it is
> > > > > > evidence of 'mainstream' physics inability to understand energy is an
> > > > > > effect of what physically occurs.
>
> > > > > Don't be ridiculous. I'm not the spokesman for mainstream physics and
> > > > > I'm not your trained monkey.
> > > > > I don't answer your questions because you're a dirtbag, not because
> > > > > there is no mainstream physics understanding.
>
> > > > > Just because you are not provided something you sulk and whine and
> > > > > demand should not be evidence to you that the something doesn't exist.
> > > > > It just means that you are a whining baby with severe emotional
> > > > > problems who goes after things the wrong way.
>
> > > > > PD
>
> > > > You insist I read many, many books in order to 'understand' mass is
> > > > not conserved when mass is conserved.
>
> > > I don't insist anything of you. I suggest you do that, yes. I don't
> > > why you would steadfastly refuse to read something that is at least
> > > partially in opposition to your point of view. Do you only read that
> > > which you fully agree with? Are you afraid of reading?
>
> > Since I understand mass is conserved
>
> You have religious faith that this is the case, and you use as support
> your own assertion that it is the case.
>

I have the experimental evidence. Whenever an experiment is performed
the particle is always detected exiting a single slit. If detectors
are placed at the entrances to the slits the particle is always
detected entering a single slit. This is experimental evidence the
particle always enters and exits a single slit.

> > and, in terms of E=mc^2, energy
> > is the effect of mæther decompressing, I prefer to conceptually
> > understand how nature works physically and what causes the effect of
> > energy.
>
> Yes, I know. You always do what you PREFER, whether that has any
> usefulness or not.
>

The C-60 molecule is always detected entering and exiting a single
slit because it ALWAYS enters and exits a single slit. To believe
otherwise is to disregard the experimental evidence.

>
>
> > For example, any particle in a double slit experiment is ALWAYS
> > detected exiting a single slit. This is evidence the particle ALWAYS
> > enters a single slit. Since I understand the particle ALWAYS enters
> > and exits a single slit and it is the associated aether wave which
> > enters and exits multiple slits, I prefer to understand what occurs
> > physically in nature in a double slit experiment.
>
>

From: spudnik on
it is too bad that U.Al cannot engage in debate, because
he certainly has a valid "point" about the duality, and
that is your only real problem.

admittedly, it is more of a quandary with fullerenes, but
there is not even any "where," there, with the "photon"
-- unless you think that a Nobel is an adequate laurel,
to resurrect Sir Isaac's nutty corpuscle (the one
that goes faster in denser media .-)

more precisely, E's neologism of "quantum
of light, I shall call, photon," does not neccesitate that
"the photon must be a particle (zero-dimensional,
no mass, no momentum QED .-)

> I have the experimental evidence. Whenever an experiment is performed
> the particle is always detected exiting a single slit.

thus:
NB, Lanczos used quaternions in _Variational Mechanics_
for special relativity, and it's just "real time" and
"three ('imaginary') axes of space;" but,
this is just the original "vectors." so,
compare Lanczos' biquaternions
with the "Cayley-Dickerson doubling" procedure,
to go from real to complex to quaternion to octonion. anyway,
"worldlines" are just the crappola in Minkowski's "pants,"
totally obfuscatory outside of a formalism --
time is not a dimension; time is awareness & mensurability
(of dimensionality !-)

thus:
Gauss meaasured the curvature
of Earth with his theodolite *and* a chain measure
of distance (working for France in Alsace-Lorraine,
triangulatin' that contested area .-)

thus:
notice that no-one bothered with the "proofs" that I've seen, and
the statute of limitation is out on that, but, anyway,
I think it must have been Scalia, not Kennedy,
who changed his little, oligarchical "Federalist Society" mind.

thus:
sorry; I guess, it was Scalia who'd "mooted" a yea on WS-is-WS, but
later came to d'Earl d'O. ... unless it was Breyer, as I may
have read in an article about his retirement.
> I know of at least three "proofs" that WS was WS, but
> I recently found a text that really '"makes the case,"
> once and for all (but the Oxfordians, Rhodesian Scholars, and
> others brainwashed by British Liberal Free Trade,
> capNtrade e.g.).
> what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic;
> his real "proof" is _1599_;
> the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up --
> especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1.
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co....

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com

--Waxman's capNtrade#2 [*]: "Let the arbitrageurs raise the cost
of your energy as much as They can ?!?" * His first such bill was
in '91 under HW on NOx & SO2 viz acid rain; so?
From: mpc755 on
On May 9, 12:22 am, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> it is too bad that U.Al cannot engage in debate, because
> he certainly has a valid "point" about the duality, and
> that is your only real problem.
>
> admittedly, it is more of a quandary with fullerenes, but
> there is not even any "where," there, with the "photon"
> -- unless you think that a Nobel is an adequate laurel,
> to resurrect Sir Isaac's nutty corpuscle (the one
> that goes faster in denser media .-)
>
> more precisely, E's neologism of "quantum
> of light, I shall call, photon," does not neccesitate that
> "the photon must be a particle (zero-dimensional,
> no mass, no momentum QED .-)
>

A photon is detected as a particle. My preferred concept of a photon
is as a directed/pointed wave which collapses and is detected as a
particle.

> > I have the experimental evidence. Whenever an experiment is performed
> > the particle is always detected exiting a single slit.
>
> thus:
> NB, Lanczos used quaternions in _Variational Mechanics_
> for special relativity, and it's just "real time" and
> "three ('imaginary') axes of space;" but,
> this is just the original "vectors."  so,
> compare Lanczos' biquaternions
> with the "Cayley-Dickerson doubling" procedure,
> to go from real to complex to quaternion to octonion.  anyway,
> "worldlines" are just the crappola in Minkowski's "pants,"
> totally obfuscatory outside of a formalism --
> time is not a dimension; time is awareness & mensurability
> (of dimensionality !-)
>
> thus:
> Gauss meaasured the curvature
> of Earth with his theodolite *and* a chain measure
> of distance (working for France in Alsace-Lorraine,
> triangulatin' that contested area .-)
>
> thus:
> notice that no-one bothered with the "proofs" that I've seen, and
> the statute of limitation is out on that, but, anyway,
> I think it must have been Scalia, not Kennedy,
> who changed his little, oligarchical "Federalist Society" mind.
>
> thus:
> sorry; I guess, it was Scalia who'd "mooted" a yea on WS-is-WS, but
> later came to d'Earl d'O. ... unless it was Breyer, as I may
> have  read in an article about his retirement.
>
> > I know of at least three "proofs" that WS was WS, but
> > I recently found a text that really '"makes the case,"
> > once and for all (but the Oxfordians, Rhodesian Scholars, and
> > others brainwashed by British Liberal Free Trade,
> > capNtrade e.g.).
> >     what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic;
> > his real "proof" is _1599_;
> > the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up --
> > especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1.
> >http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co.....
>
> --Light: A History!http://wlym.com
>
> --Waxman's capNtrade#2 [*]: "Let the arbitrageurs raise the cost
> of your energy as much as They can ?!?"  * His first such bill was
> in '91 under HW on NOx & SO2 viz acid rain; so?