Proton Radius Cannot Be Derived From Standard Model
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From: Y.Porat on 17 Jun 2010 00:44 On May 15, 11:51 pm, waldofj <wald...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > On May 12, 8:54 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 11, 6:43 pm, waldofj <wald...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > On May 10, 4:01 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 10, 2:21 pm, waldofj <wald...(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Your statement that the photon is always detected as a particle is > > > > > > still factually false. > > > > > > I thought that was always the case. Of course I'm thinking in terms of > > > > > the Copenhagen interpretation of QM. When is a photon not detected as > > > > > a particle? > > > > have you heard of wave/particle duality? > > > > > Particles do not exhibit interference. > > > > sure they dohttp://www.haverford.edu/physics/love/teaching/Physics302PJL2009Recit... > > > As I said, one approach is to label photons as "particles" and then > > completely revise what is meant by the word "particle" to suit. > > here is a definition of particle I found on the web: > a. A body whose spatial extent and internal motion and structure, if > any, are irrelevant in a specific problem. > b. An elementary particle > > I think of elementary as meaning indivisible, or smallest unit. That's > what I mean when I call a photon a particle. I'm not revising > anything. I guess I just don't know what you mean by "particle". > > > > > > > Photons do. > > > > they can under the appropriate circumstances. > > > > > Just as an example. > > > > Light consists of photons, but an assembly of photons has a property > > > > called wavelength, which can be directly measured with a grating > > > > spectrometer with great precision. > > > > you're way off base here. Wavelength is not a property of an assembly > > > of photons but a property of each individual photon, as per > > > e = hf > > > e = hc/lamda > > > lamda = hc/e > ----------------------------------- why do you have to look far in out of date books while here in this humble ng i was proving that hf IS NOT THE FORMULA OF A 'SINGLE PHOOTN' IT IS A FORMULA OF A HUGE NUMBER OF REAL SINGLE PHOTONS !! THAT ARE EMITTED DURING ONE SECOND** th e photon does not know what is a second !!! i showed that th e real "single photon' is emitted during a much sorter time probably short as the PLANCK TIME'!!! so the real energy of a single photon is about exp-73 Joules !!!!!!! AND YOU CAN GET AS WELL ITS MASS BY DIVIDING IT BY c^2 !!! see the thread 'a better new definition of the real single photon' in that case NO ONE WILL EVER DETECT THE 'REAL SINGLE PHOTON ' WITH ANY HUMAN ( DEVISED )EXPERIMENT TOOL !!! 2 th e 'radius' of the Proton will never be found since THE PROTON IS NOT A SPHERE !!! (:-) IT IS A LONGISH SHAPE just as a curious prove you cant make a sphere from 3 quarks that is basic geometry!! but many other reasons why it is not a sphere ***it is a longish shape** WITH POLES - A FRONT POLE AND A BACK POLE THAT ARE NOT IDENTICAL !!! see my abstract http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract ATB Y.Porat ------------------------ > |