Proton Radius Cannot Be Derived From Standard Model
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From: spudnik on 25 May 2010 22:08 no, no, no. the molecule of silver oxide in the film, is what the energy "collapses" into, a very small area, indeed, and this all done "electromagnetically," using shifts in the orbitals of the electrons. now, I guess it is more of a question, how it is that the wavefront of light "flows" through the medium of space, without actually being absorbed by the atoms. the ideal of aether pretty-much faded, as the ideal of atoms became prevalent & better comprehended; did it not? if you look at the original problem of Bernoulli and Liebniz, the path of quickest descent through a variable medium (the atmosphere, a continuation of "space'), it seems that the "frictionless" aspect of it is akin the masslessness of your beloved photon--is-a-rock, a known absirdity that has always been passed-over. > "the wave of light travels through both slits, whence it recombines > through constructive interference, and collapses as a single quantum" > The photon wave travels through both slits. The ability of the photon > wave to collapse and be detected as a single quantum occupies a very > small region of the wave and travels a single path. thusNso: UA's not engaging you, might as well be am Snipcrapbot. and, you are not engaging anyone who bothers with you, mister A=mcc Ba-doomp. thusNso: so, if A=mcc, where does the "creates energy" come into it?... don't you see, where you've stuck yourself, a blythe conundrum of wordage? thus quoth: The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Mæther decompressing creates energy. Mass is conserved. thusNso: wait a second; now, you're saying light can't have both electrical & magnetical components?... sort of like, the general confusion over mathematical duality, where you can't actually use both of the pair *at the same time*, unless it is a "two-column proof" a la Pascal. a more proper statment would be, like, a photon is a boson, not neccesarily a momentumless, no-dimensional point of light, and mainly because young et al showed that all of the essential properties are wavy. so, if light is the one thing that might not really be a particle, what is one thing that might not really be a wave? --Pi, the surfer's canonical value -- except no other! http://wlym.com
From: mpc755 on 25 May 2010 22:15 On May 25, 10:08 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > no, no, no. the molecule of silver oxide in the film, > is what the energy "collapses" into, a very small area, indeed, and > this all done "electromagnetically," using shifts in the orbitals > of the electrons. now, I guess it is more of a question, > how it is that the wavefront of light "flows" > through the medium of space, without actually being > absorbed by the atoms. > The electron orbital changes due to the quantum of mæther which is 'absorbed' by the atom. The quantum of mæther is the photon 'particle'.
From: spudnik on 25 May 2010 22:23 gi'me a break; you are trying to profess some new religion, without thinking about what you're typing. and why in Hell am I typing back at you?... ah, I see, where you're going with this. you are going into the Standard Model with its "force-imparting particles," the photon, graviton, gluon etc., now some-how encapsulated in the maether -- yeah! > The electron orbital changes due to the quantum of mæther which is > 'absorbed' by the atom. The quantum of mæther is the photon > 'particle'. thus" a more proper statment would be, like, a photon is a boson, not neccesarily a momentumless, no-dimensional point of light, and mainly because Young et al showed that all of the essential properties are wavy, not requiring the absurdity of Newton's corpuscle. (why the British hate Shakespeare, is why they love Newton .-) so, if light is the one thing that might not really be a particle, what is one thing that might not really be a wave? --Pi, the surfer's canonical value -- except no other! http://wlym.com
From: mpc755 on 25 May 2010 22:33 In article <acb260a7-7d81-485d-84ef-0a8dfa0f22a2 @z13g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Space998(a)hotmail.com says... > > gi'me a break; > you are trying to profess some new religion, > without thinking about what you're typing. > I am suggesting the electron moves to a higher orbital upon the absorption of the quantum of mæther by the atom because there now exists more mæther between the electron and the nucleus of the atom. The quantum of mæther occupies three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus, forcing the electron into a higher orbital. > and why in Hell am I typing back at you?... ah, > I see, where you're going with this. > > you are going into the Standard Model > with its "force-imparting particles," > the photon, graviton, gluon etc., now some-how > encapsulated in the maether -- yeah! > There is no such thing as a graviton. It is not known if the aether consists of particle or not. The aether behaves as a 'one something'. > > The electron orbital changes due to the quantum of mæther which is > > 'absorbed' by the atom. The quantum of mæther is the photon > > 'particle'. > > thus" > a more proper statment would be, like, > a photon is a boson, not neccesarily a momentumless, > no-dimensional point of light, and mainly because > Young et al showed that all of the essential > properties are wavy, not requiring the absurdity > of Newton's corpuscle. (why the British hate Shakespeare, > is why they love Newton .-) > > so, if light is the one thing that might not really be a particle, > what is one thing that might not really be a wave? > > --Pi, the surfer's canonical value -- except no other! > http://wlym.com
From: spudnik on 25 May 2010 22:45
so, the maether is aerodynamic, and the electrons are flying wings. good. for my own sake, this takes too much time, I am going to see how to install a killfile; no hard feelings & good luck with honing that theory (like, explaining *any* thing, like the index of refraction or permeability or what-have-you). parting shot: if there's no need of a graviton -- and, I totally agree with theAlfven school on that -- what need is of a particle of light? thus quoth: I am suggesting the electron moves to a higher orbital upon the absorption of the quantum of mæther by the atom, because there now exists more mæther between the electron and the nucleus of the atom. The quantum of mæther occupies three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus, forcing the electron into a higher orbital. There is no such thing as a graviton. --Pi, the surfer's canonical value -- except no other! http://wlym.com |