From: mpc755 on
On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically.
>
> > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a
> > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces
> > > > the electron into a higher orbital.
>
> > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher
> > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies
> > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the
> > atom.
>
> In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be
> "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a
> higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION...

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
The material is mæther.
Mæther has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther.
In E=mc^2, Energy is effect of matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.

My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave
through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of
mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a
quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself.

In a double slit experiment the photon wave enters and exits both
slits. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The
photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters
the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon
'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no
interference. If detectors are placed at the exits to the slits the
photon 'particle' is always detected exiting a single slit because the
photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit.

Mæther has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether and matter are different states of mæther.
Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
EINSTEIN'
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
and matter is energy.

Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the
mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The
physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter
and aether is energy.

Mass is conserved.
From: mpc755 on
On May 26, 3:48 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> that is not an "image of a photon,"
> but an "artist's impression" of some heuristic statement
> by a theoretician (which is as much status as any
> of us can have, hereinat).
>
> you continue to not realize, although it is quite common
> amongst all "photonics" workers, naturally, that
> the wave & particel are merely mathematical duals,
> not that the object in question is both at the same time,
> or neccesarily both at different times.
>

Are you refuting your own statement?

"the wave of light travels through both slits, whence it recombines
through constructive interference, and collapses as a single quantum"

The photon wave travels through both slits. The ability of the photon
wave to collapse and be detected as a single quantum occupies a very
small region of the wave and travels a single path.
From: PD on
On May 26, 2:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically.
>
> > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a
> > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces
> > > > > the electron into a higher orbital.
>
> > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher
> > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies
> > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the
> > > atom.
>
> > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be
> > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a
> > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION...
>
> Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>

Gee, you made a claim, I asked you a question about your claim, you do
not answer the question and instead ask me a question involving words
you don't know the meaning of.

If there aren't answers to questions about your own ideas, then
perhaps you should just admit it.
From: spudnik on
it is important not to be gulled by various so-called paradoxes,
such as EPR, which are based on other paradoxes,
such as "the photon" in EPR. even the experimenters (and
theoretical propitiators) of EPR, do not say that information
can thereby surpass the speed of light; so,
what matter is this alleged paradox -- weren't EP&R really correct?

so, how does a wave "propagate aethertronically" through the medium
of space, and what happens to the electrons in it?... hey, progress;
no need of either of Newton's balls!

> > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be
> > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a
> > higher electron orbital of which you speak?

> - The future determining the past
> - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
> - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair

> My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave
> through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of
> mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a
> quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself.
> By A.EINSTEIN http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf
> "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
> diminishes by L/c2."
From: mpc755 on
On May 26, 4:02 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 2:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 3:48 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 26, 2:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 26, 3:42 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > thank you, Maetherwocky, maethertronically.
>
> > > > > > When a photon is absorbed by an atom what is being absorbed is a
> > > > > > quantum of mæther. The quantum of mæther absorbed by the atom forces
> > > > > > the electron into a higher orbital.
>
> > > > Good to see you understand the electron is forced into a higher
> > > > orbital because the quantum of mæther 'absorbed' by the atom occupies
> > > > three dimensional space between the electron and the nucleus of the
> > > > atom.
>
> > > In this diagram of electron orbitals, which ones appear to you to be
> > > "higher", and where is the extra space between the nucleus and a
> > > higher electron orbital of which you speak?http://personal.tcu.edu/~mfanelli/imastro/SPECTRAL%20LINE%20FORMATION...
>
> > Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:
>
> Gee, you made a claim, I asked you a question about your claim, you do
> not answer the question and instead ask me a question involving words
> you don't know the meaning of.
>
> If there aren't answers to questions about your own ideas, then
> perhaps you should just admit it.

Explain how what you choose to believe occurs physically in nature:

- The future determining the past
- Virtual particles which exist out of nothing
- Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair
- A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having
a change in momentum.
- Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is
different than Maxwell's displacement current
- Mass is not conserved.

The following are the most correct physical explanations to date:

- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends
past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced
by the plates forces the plates together
- Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair.
When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its
spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved,
the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums.
- A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate
aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits
- Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by
matter.
- Michelson's "aether displacement to the electric current" is the
same conceptually as Maxwell's displacement current.
- Matter and aether are different states of the same material.
The material is mæther.
Mæther has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther.
In E=mc^2, Energy is effect of matter transitioning to aether.
Mass is conserved.

My preferred concept of a photon is that it propagates as a wave
through the aether (decompressed) and is detected as a quantum of
mæther (compressed). The ability of the wave to be detected as a
quantum of mæther occupies a very small region of the wave itself.

In a double slit experiment the photon wave enters and exits both
slits. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The
photon wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters
the direction the photon 'particle' travels. Detecting the photon
'particle' causes decoherence of the photon wave and there is no
interference. If detectors are placed at the exits to the slits the
photon 'particle' is always detected exiting a single slit because the
photon 'particle' always enters and exits a single slit.

Mæther has mass.
Aether and matter have mass.
Aether and matter are different states of mæther.
Aether is uncompressed mæther and matter is compressed mæther.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A.
EINSTEIN'
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
and matter is energy.

Mass does not convert to energy. Matter converts to aether. As the
mæther transitions from matter to aether it increases in volume. The
physical effect the increase in volume has on the neighboring matter
and aether is energy.

Mass is conserved.