Push to Talk (PTT) How does it work? Does it work?
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From: alexd on 25 Jun 2010 16:51 Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, tony sayer chose the tried and tested strategy of: > A few suppliers we know were pushing it but have now stopped selling it. > Seems it can be a bit more expensive then what its been made out to > be... Which is crazy, really. This whole integrated into the network thing should in theory make it cheaper, but of course it's just another opportunity for the network operator to take another bite of the cherry, which makes it prohibitively expensive. An XMPP client with some PTT capabilities would do the trick, and then all you'd be paying for is data, and you'd get desktop compatibility for free. Yes that's right mobile telcos, you're just dumb bit-pipes now. -- <http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm(a)ale.cx) 21:46:16 up 5 days, 10:47, 5 users, load average: 0.57, 0.20, 0.14 Qua illic est accuso, illic est a vindicatum
From: Steve Terry on 25 Jun 2010 17:46 "alexd" <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1343292.snlVU6TSbV(a)ale.cx... > Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, tony sayer > chose the tried and tested strategy of: > >> A few suppliers we know were pushing it but have now stopped selling it. >> Seems it can be a bit more expensive then what its been made out to >> be... > > Which is crazy, really. This whole integrated into the network thing > should > in theory make it cheaper, but of course it's just another opportunity for > the network operator to take another bite of the cherry, which makes it > prohibitively expensive. An XMPP client with some PTT capabilities would > do > the trick, and then all you'd be paying for is data, and you'd get desktop > compatibility for free. Yes that's right mobile telcos, you're just dumb > bit-pipes now. > > I suspect that there was / is political intrigue going on about supporting PTT in the UK with only Orange business offering it, had it become a success Police forces around the country could justifiably argued why the Gov had spent a fortune on patchy Tetra airwaves. Scandinavian police have had PTT GSM Pro since the mid 1990's. Steve Terry -- Welcome Sign-up Bonus of �1 when you signup free at: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK
From: Steve Terry on 25 Jun 2010 20:03 "alexd" <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:21669172.TW3VsfAaAt(a)ale.cx... > Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Gordon > Henderson chose the tried and tested strategy of: > >> Breaker breaker - give me a break! PTT is so last century IMO. > > Don't knock it until you've tried it. You might find the presence features > make it worthwhile alone. > > Indeed, normal Vox operated duplex GSM conference calls without PTT end up a confused mess, with no one knowing who's talking or when they finished and whether one should talk next With PTT all in the authorised group are listening until one of the group presses their button to talk Although normal Vox operated duplex GSM conference calls without PTT can be made these days very cheaply using inclusive mins with services like http://www.03talk.com/ Steve Terry -- Welcome Sign-up Bonus of �1 when you signup free at: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/G4WWK
From: Gordon Henderson on 26 Jun 2010 02:26 In article <21669172.TW3VsfAaAt(a)ale.cx>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Gordon >Henderson chose the tried and tested strategy of: > >> Breaker breaker - give me a break! PTT is so last century IMO. > >Don't knock it until you've tried it. You might find the presence features >make it worthwhile alone. I used PTT 27 years ago when the early CB radios were hitting our shores. It was fun at the time, but nothing more. Gordon
From: tony sayer on 26 Jun 2010 15:21
In article <i0383h$rf7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Steve Terry <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> scribeth thus >"alexd" <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:1343292.snlVU6TSbV(a)ale.cx... >> Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, tony sayer >> chose the tried and tested strategy of: >> >>> A few suppliers we know were pushing it but have now stopped selling it. >>> Seems it can be a bit more expensive then what its been made out to >>> be... >> >> Which is crazy, really. This whole integrated into the network thing >> should >> in theory make it cheaper, but of course it's just another opportunity for >> the network operator to take another bite of the cherry, which makes it >> prohibitively expensive. An XMPP client with some PTT capabilities would >> do >> the trick, and then all you'd be paying for is data, and you'd get desktop >> compatibility for free. Yes that's right mobile telcos, you're just dumb >> bit-pipes now. >> >> >I suspect that there was / is political intrigue going on about supporting >PTT in the UK with only Orange business offering it, had it become a >success Police forces around the country could justifiably argued why >the Gov had spent a fortune on patchy Tetra airwaves. Airwave was set up for the emergency services for their use. After all what would be the situation like what's happened before if all circuits were jammed up with people calling home like what did a few years ago round here when the weather was bad?.. > >Scandinavian police have had PTT GSM Pro since the mid 1990's. Their own net or a public one?.. > >Steve Terry -- Tony Sayer |