From: tony sayer on
In article <i046jh$2vro$1(a)energise.enta.net>, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+usenet(a)drogon.net> scribeth thus
>In article <21669172.TW3VsfAaAt(a)ale.cx>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Gordon
>>Henderson chose the tried and tested strategy of:
>>
>>> Breaker breaker - give me a break! PTT is so last century IMO.
>>
>>Don't knock it until you've tried it. You might find the presence features
>>make it worthwhile alone.
>
>I used PTT 27 years ago when the early CB radios were hitting our
>shores. It was fun at the time, but nothing more.
>
>Gordon

PTT Use is still there in pro radio applications..
--
Tony Sayer

From: Bob on
On 25 Jun 2010 09:48:08 +0100 (BST), Theo Markettos
<theom+news(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Bob <plasm(a)tv.com> wrote:
>> This N70 when I first got it was cutting edge but I now get laughed at
>> by my mates who call it a brick. It has lasted me ages though and even
>> though its all scratched up it still works. Not too sure what I will
>> replace it with yet but I do like the HTC phones. A new Nokia I think
>> is worth considering still as they are good value especially with free
>> gps. Though I think Sony Ericsson is probably best if you want a
>> device that can take great photos.
>
>If you're thinking of a touchscreen Nokia, try one first - it's a bit of an
>acquired taste. S60v5 is a lot like S60v2 on the N70, but instead of using
>a joystick and hard buttons you use a touchscreen and soft buttons. It
>doesn't really make use of the touchscreen in a natural way like iPhone or
>Android do - you're still clicking on buttons and menus like you are on a
>conventional phone.
>
>BTW, you can reconfigure the PTT button on the N70 to do something more
>useful :-)


Theo, I'd really like to know which button it is ;)


From: Steve Terry on
"tony sayer" <tony(a)bancom.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pbvJ4oBgMlJMFwX8(a)bancom.co.uk...
> In article <i0383h$rf7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Steve Terry
> <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> scribeth thus
>>"alexd" <troffasky(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1343292.snlVU6TSbV(a)ale.cx...
<snip>
>>I suspect that there was / is political intrigue going on about supporting
>>PTT in the UK with only Orange business offering it, had it become a
>>success Police forces around the country could justifiably argued why
>>the Gov had spent a fortune on patchy Tetra airwaves.
>
> Airwave was set up for the emergency services for their use. After all
> what would be the situation like what's happened before if all circuits
> were jammed up with people calling home like what did a few years ago
> round here when the weather was bad?..
>
GSM can have Multi-Level Precedence with Police and Gov officials
of course being given highest 0 or 1 level priority Sims / accounts.
>>
>>Scandinavian police have had PTT GSM Pro since the mid 1990's.
>>Steve Terry
>
> Their own net or a public one?..
> Tony Sayer
>
On 900MHz public GSM networks nationally modified to GSM Pro PTT standards

Also if required extra levels of encryption can be added to individual
handsets, the Ericsson R250s Pro was probably the most popular?
http://www.gsmarena.com/ericsson_r250s_pro-119.php

But retailing for about 100quid each on an existing system that would have
only cost a few million to bring up to GSM Pro standard, the whole idea of
GSM Pro for the UK Police would have threatened some seriously big
multi �billion Tetra contacts.

Another political reason for GSM Pro not to exist in the UK is it would
have scotched at birth the failed commercial Dolphin Tetra system.

So by not enabling GSM Pro in the UK not only have we prevented the
security services from a cheap effective system but also commercial users
too

And ordinary GSM users have lost out as well as obviously they would
have had back spots filled in their coverage with gov backed extra cells
on emergency service advice.

The only winner with Tetra Airwaves is Airwaves O2

Steve Terry
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From: Steve Terry on
"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet(a)drogon.net> wrote in message
news:i046jh$2vro$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> In article <21669172.TW3VsfAaAt(a)ale.cx>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Gordon
>>Henderson chose the tried and tested strategy of:
>>
>>> Breaker breaker - give me a break! PTT is so last century IMO.
>>
>>Don't knock it until you've tried it. You might find the presence features
>>make it worthwhile alone.
>
> I used PTT 27 years ago when the early CB radios were hitting our
> shores. It was fun at the time, but nothing more.
> Gordon
>
>
So you've not use PTT on GSM which is quite different

For a comparison think of it as like CB but noise free with infinite range
where you can call with a ringing alert at anytime any other CBer
individually
or collectively in your group.

Not quite CB is it?

Steve Terry
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From: tony sayer on
In article <i066br$2ln$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Steve Terry
<gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> scribeth thus
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet(a)drogon.net> wrote in message
>news:i046jh$2vro$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>> In article <21669172.TW3VsfAaAt(a)ale.cx>, alexd <troffasky(a)hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.mobile Job Justification Hearings, Gordon
>>>Henderson chose the tried and tested strategy of:
>>>
>>>> Breaker breaker - give me a break! PTT is so last century IMO.
>>>
>>>Don't knock it until you've tried it. You might find the presence features
>>>make it worthwhile alone.
>>
>> I used PTT 27 years ago when the early CB radios were hitting our
>> shores. It was fun at the time, but nothing more.
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>So you've not use PTT on GSM which is quite different
>
>For a comparison think of it as like CB but noise free with infinite range

Yes of course, manages to get round all those holes in the coverage that
the GSM nets have;!..

>where you can call with a ringing alert at anytime any other CBer
>individually
>or collectively in your group.

If its so good why hasn't it caught on yet?..

>
>Not quite CB is it?
>
>Steve Terry

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