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From: jp on 26 Feb 2010 10:56

Hi Jan,

Thank you for your reply. Is the reschedule button the one labeled
"Reschedule work"? I have highlighted the task and click on the "Reschedule
work" and it changed the start date. Is it the same as if I had done it
manually (enter the start date based on my logic?). Thank you Jan.

-JP

"Jan De Messemaeker" wrote:

> I'm probably too old to understand this.
> WXhat else that "putting on hold" does the reschedule work button do?
> It either delays or SPLITS task as you want.
> BTW there is the option "For selected tasks" if you want to limit its
> influence.
> HTH
>
> --
> Jan De Messemaeker
> Microsoft Project Most Valuable Professional
> +32 495 300 620
> For availability check:
> http://users.online.be/prom-ade/Calendar.pdf
> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:28ACFE50-E7BE-4921-B1C4-4160D07CE654(a)microsoft.com...
> >
> > oh ok. So there is no way to suspend tasks in MS-Project 2003?
> >
> > I have to try Andrew's option of exposing the fields he suggested. I will
> > try your suggestion too. The funny thing about MS-Project is that you can
> > always plan it but it rarely follows a "single yellow line" and that's
> > where
> > we neeed a button to suspend things.... Thansk Jan, Andrew for your
> > suggestions.
> > ;-)
> >
> > -jp
> >
> > "Jan De Messemaeker" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Try this:
> >> Tools
> >> Tracking
> >> Update Project
> >> Reschedule uncompleted work to start after..
> >> OK
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jan De Messemaeker
> >> Microsoft Project Most Valuable Professional
> >> +32 495 300 620
> >> For availability check:
> >> http://users.online.be/prom-ade/Calendar.pdf
> >> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BEDA59C5-BA49-4358-837F-5F6B8CFB0E0D(a)microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I have a project with many tasks and the developer has moved on to get
> >> > the
> >> > most important tasks done -- because of time. How do I place previous
> >> > tasks
> >> > on hold?
> >> > That's because based on the project some things should've been done
> >> > this
> >> > week but instead other tasks have taken priority.
> >> >
> >> > -jp
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
>
> .
>
From: jp on 26 Feb 2010 11:03

Steve,

Thank you. I understand exactly what you mean. All I can say is, some
projects
are crazy....

;-(
-jp

"Steve House" wrote:

> Not sure what you mean by "suspend tasks." Remember that project is not
> designed to reflect dates you determine elsewhere but rather compute the
> schedule that you ought to be working. In aviation they say you plan your
> flight then fly your plan. Project works on the assumption that that is the
> way you'll work on your projects as well - that you'll plan when tasks ought
> to be done using Project and mandate that your resources work according to
> the schedule you've developed. If you were supposed to do a task last week
> but didn't follow the plan and do it, all you can do is reschedule to the
> earliest date you can do it - hence the advice to use the "reschedule
> uncompleted work" tool. "Suspend" seems to imply that work will be done on
> the task at some indeterminate date in the future but if that's the way
> you're actually going to work scheduling is pretty much meaningless and all
> you have is a to-do list.
> --
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
>
> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:28ACFE50-E7BE-4921-B1C4-4160D07CE654(a)microsoft.com...
> >
> > oh ok. So there is no way to suspend tasks in MS-Project 2003?
> >
> > I have to try Andrew's option of exposing the fields he suggested. I will
> > try your suggestion too. The funny thing about MS-Project is that you can
> > always plan it but it rarely follows a "single yellow line" and that's
> > where
> > we neeed a button to suspend things.... Thansk Jan, Andrew for your
> > suggestions.
> > ;-)
> >
> > -jp
> >
> > "Jan De Messemaeker" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Try this:
> >> Tools
> >> Tracking
> >> Update Project
> >> Reschedule uncompleted work to start after..
> >> OK
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jan De Messemaeker
> >> Microsoft Project Most Valuable Professional
> >> +32 495 300 620
> >> For availability check:
> >> http://users.online.be/prom-ade/Calendar.pdf
> >> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:BEDA59C5-BA49-4358-837F-5F6B8CFB0E0D(a)microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I have a project with many tasks and the developer has moved on to get
> >> > the
> >> > most important tasks done -- because of time. How do I place previous
> >> > tasks
> >> > on hold?
> >> > That's because based on the project some things should've been done
> >> > this
> >> > week but instead other tasks have taken priority.
> >> >
> >> > -jp
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
> .
>
From: "Steve House" sjhouse at hotmail dot on 26 Feb 2010 12:55
Reschedule works slightly differently depending on whether the task has any
work done on it ir not. If there is no work done, it applies a "Start No
Earlier Than" constraint to the task of the designated resume work date,
effectively rescheduling the task to start on that date. IF there has been
some work done - say, for example, there's a 5-day duration task that was
supposed to begin last Monday and it's now late Friday afternoon. Work was
done Monday and Tuesday but then stopped, the resource called in sick, so it
has an Actual Start of Monday, an Actual Duration of 2 days, and a Remaining
Duration of 3 days. Reschedule Work (to after today) will split the task at
Tueday, leaving Monday and Tuesday's work where it is, and shift the
remaining 3 day out to resume on next Monday, with those 3 days scheduled to
run on Mon, Tue, and Wed of next week. For the first task, the one with no
work at all, the Stop and Resume fields will be empty and the rescheduling
is accomplished through the constraint, same as manually entering a start
date. For the second task, the date marking the end of the work performed
populates the Stop field and the date the remaining work begins populates
the Resume field. In both cases your Baseline (you do have a baseline,
right?) will retain the originally scheduled start and end dates for
progress reporting and comparison purposes.
--
Steve House
MS Project Trainer & Consultant


"jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F3F56C33-D9BC-4C00-8E6F-4CD891C258C6(a)microsoft.com...
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
> So is rescheuduling simply changing the "Start" date of the task or is
> there
> some
> other elaborate way of doing it?
>
> -JP
>
> "Steve House" wrote:
>
>> If the task was supposed to start on the 3rd but nothing has been done so
>> far, why do you want to leave any of it showing on the 3rd? You don't
>> have
>> a time machine that would let you go back and do some of that work on its
>> originally scheduled date, do you? The earliest you can actually do any
>> work on it now is swometime in the the future, hence rescheduling it to
>> start after the date you think you'll be able to get back to it is the
>> only
>> logical thing to do. Splitting would mean you got some of the work done
>> but
>> stood down before it was completed. The work that was done stays on the
>> days you did it and the balance of the task needs to move to reschedule
>> for
>> the date you'll get back to it.
>> --
>> Steve House
>> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>>
>>
>>
>> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:01BD021B-C796-49C3-A90F-0679B5254318(a)microsoft.com...
>> >
>> > I went to the task and inserted the "Stop" and "Resume" fields.
>> > These tasks were supposed to get started 2/3/10 and did not (now
>> > 2/24/10).
>> > I am also having difficulty splitting tasks unless they have at least
>> > 1%
>> > started. If
>> > it's 0% it won't allow me to do anything with the "Stop" and "Resume"
>> > fields.
>> > Can u explain the rules on "Stop" "Resume" fields and what they can and
>> > cannot
>> > do? Many thanks.
>> >
>> > -jp
>> >
>> > "Andrew Lavinsky" wrote:
>> >
>> >> A couple of options to try out:
>> >>
>> >> 1) Just add dependencies from the higher priority tasks to the lower
>> >> priority tasks.
>> >> 2) Set task priorities and level your project.
>> >> 3) Not sure how you're updating your project, but you could open the
>> >> Gantt
>> >> Chart view and expose the Stop and Resume fields. Then manually plug
>> >> dates
>> >> into the Resume fields.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't quite used that approach manually, but I have played with a
>> >> macro
>> >> that does just that.
>> >>
>> >> If you can't enter dates into the Resume field, check Tools > Options
>> >> to
>> >> ensure that Splitting Tasks is allowed.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "jp" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have a project with many tasks and the developer has moved on to
>> >> > get
>> >> > the
>> >> > most important tasks done -- because of time. How do I place
>> >> > previous
>> >> > tasks
>> >> > on hold?
>> >> > That's because based on the project some things should've been done
>> >> > this
>> >> > week but instead other tasks have taken priority.
>> >> >
>> >> > -jp
>>
>> .
>>

From: jp on 26 Feb 2010 18:42

Got it Steve. Yes, I have a baseline.
;-)
-JP

"Steve House" wrote:

> Reschedule works slightly differently depending on whether the task has any
> work done on it ir not. If there is no work done, it applies a "Start No
> Earlier Than" constraint to the task of the designated resume work date,
> effectively rescheduling the task to start on that date. IF there has been
> some work done - say, for example, there's a 5-day duration task that was
> supposed to begin last Monday and it's now late Friday afternoon. Work was
> done Monday and Tuesday but then stopped, the resource called in sick, so it
> has an Actual Start of Monday, an Actual Duration of 2 days, and a Remaining
> Duration of 3 days. Reschedule Work (to after today) will split the task at
> Tueday, leaving Monday and Tuesday's work where it is, and shift the
> remaining 3 day out to resume on next Monday, with those 3 days scheduled to
> run on Mon, Tue, and Wed of next week. For the first task, the one with no
> work at all, the Stop and Resume fields will be empty and the rescheduling
> is accomplished through the constraint, same as manually entering a start
> date. For the second task, the date marking the end of the work performed
> populates the Stop field and the date the remaining work begins populates
> the Resume field. In both cases your Baseline (you do have a baseline,
> right?) will retain the originally scheduled start and end dates for
> progress reporting and comparison purposes.
> --
> Steve House
> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
>
>
> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F3F56C33-D9BC-4C00-8E6F-4CD891C258C6(a)microsoft.com...
> >
> > Thanks Steve,
> >
> > So is rescheuduling simply changing the "Start" date of the task or is
> > there
> > some
> > other elaborate way of doing it?
> >
> > -JP
> >
> > "Steve House" wrote:
> >
> >> If the task was supposed to start on the 3rd but nothing has been done so
> >> far, why do you want to leave any of it showing on the 3rd? You don't
> >> have
> >> a time machine that would let you go back and do some of that work on its
> >> originally scheduled date, do you? The earliest you can actually do any
> >> work on it now is swometime in the the future, hence rescheduling it to
> >> start after the date you think you'll be able to get back to it is the
> >> only
> >> logical thing to do. Splitting would mean you got some of the work done
> >> but
> >> stood down before it was completed. The work that was done stays on the
> >> days you did it and the balance of the task needs to move to reschedule
> >> for
> >> the date you'll get back to it.
> >> --
> >> Steve House
> >> MS Project Trainer & Consultant
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "jp" <jp(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:01BD021B-C796-49C3-A90F-0679B5254318(a)microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> > I went to the task and inserted the "Stop" and "Resume" fields.
> >> > These tasks were supposed to get started 2/3/10 and did not (now
> >> > 2/24/10).
> >> > I am also having difficulty splitting tasks unless they have at least
> >> > 1%
> >> > started. If
> >> > it's 0% it won't allow me to do anything with the "Stop" and "Resume"
> >> > fields.
> >> > Can u explain the rules on "Stop" "Resume" fields and what they can and
> >> > cannot
> >> > do? Many thanks.
> >> >
> >> > -jp
> >> >
> >> > "Andrew Lavinsky" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A couple of options to try out:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Just add dependencies from the higher priority tasks to the lower
> >> >> priority tasks.
> >> >> 2) Set task priorities and level your project.
> >> >> 3) Not sure how you're updating your project, but you could open the
> >> >> Gantt
> >> >> Chart view and expose the Stop and Resume fields. Then manually plug
> >> >> dates
> >> >> into the Resume fields.
> >> >>
> >> >> I haven't quite used that approach manually, but I have played with a
> >> >> macro
> >> >> that does just that.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you can't enter dates into the Resume field, check Tools > Options
> >> >> to
> >> >> ensure that Splitting Tasks is allowed.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "jp" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a project with many tasks and the developer has moved on to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > most important tasks done -- because of time. How do I place
> >> >> > previous
> >> >> > tasks
> >> >> > on hold?
> >> >> > That's because based on the project some things should've been done
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > week but instead other tasks have taken priority.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -jp
> >>
> >> .
> >>
>
> .
>
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