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From: D'Arcy J.M. Cain on 6 Jun 2010 21:32 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 Lie Ryan <lie.1296(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/07/10 10:45, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as > > well. > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List vs > Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs. Centralized. I don't know what Ben was thinking so I was just making it explicit. > My only problem with mailing list is that for large lists, it can easily > overflows my inbox. Having a separate interface (e.g. NNTP) is quite > useful. For large list, I wouldn't be able to read all the posts anyway, > so from time-to-time I'd "Mark Everything as Read", you cannot reliably > do that in your Inbox even with filtering and all that stuffs. It's trivial to filter into separate folders and trivial to empty a folder. For me it's simply "^A" and "Del". However, it would be nice to have an expire function so that messages that I don't read for a specified time simply disappear. Do any email clients do that? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy(a)druid.net> | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.
From: Ben Finney on 6 Jun 2010 21:49 "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy(a)druid.net> writes: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 > Lie Ryan <lie.1296(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List > > vs Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs. > > Centralized. > > I don't know what Ben was thinking so I was just making it explicit. You're right, D'Arcy. I don't know exactly what “much better interfaces [than Usenet]” the poster was thinking of, that's why I listed some of the features that Usenet has which I don't see improved on in other interfaces. Now it's up to those who think such features can be improved upon to present a non-vapourware system that demonstrably has all of those features or better. -- \ “I am too firm in my consciousness of the marvelous to be ever | `\ fascinated by the mere supernatural …” —Joseph Conrad, _The | _o__) Shadow-Line_ | Ben Finney
From: Aahz on 7 Jun 2010 00:03 In article <87r5kj8zmk.fsf(a)benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney <ben+python(a)benfinney.id.au> wrote: > >So you say. For the interface to be "better" it needs to keep the good >features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of >Usenet: > > [...] You skipped over the crowning glories of Usenet: * Threaded messaging (more robust than mailing lists, generally speaking, because the behavior of the References: header is better defined, and References: includes more than just the immediate parent) * Marking articles as read does *not* delete them; they are still available for walking through the threading, but by default you never see them again NOTHING else has these, thirty years later. -- Aahz (aahz(a)pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "If you don't know what your program is supposed to do, you'd better not start writing it." --Dijkstra
From: python on 7 Jun 2010 11:19
> However, it would be nice to have an expire function so that messages that I don't read for a specified time simply disappear. Do any email clients do that? I use Fastmail.fm as my email service (and browser based email client). Fastmail supports the ability to automatically delete messages > a specific age on a folder by folder basis. Fastmail also supports a variety of ways to file messages into folders - from simple to sophisticated (Sieve based). Highly recommended! Malcolm |