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From: geremy condra on 4 Jun 2010 17:37 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma <john(a)castleamber.com> wrote: > I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that > they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image > processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the > authors will be very happy if I convert their work in PDFs and offer it > as free download on my site. Everybody wants a free ride until they have > to create and maintain the rides in their own precious time with their > own money. Playboy permits use of the image for research, so unless you planned on getting permission from the authors first this is a totally invalid comparison. Geremy Condra
From: John Bokma on 4 Jun 2010 18:24 geremy condra <debatem1(a)gmail.com> writes: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma <john(a)castleamber.com> wrote: >> I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that >> they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image >> processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the >> authors will be very happy if I convert their work in PDFs and offer it >> as free download on my site. Everybody wants a free ride until they have >> to create and maintain the rides in their own precious time with their >> own money. > > Playboy permits use of the image for research, OK, then I don't get the issue, and if you can enlighten me on it I will be thankful. > so unless you planned > on getting permission from the authors first this is a totally invalid > comparison. Clear. But my free ride remark stands IMO -- John Bokma j3b Hacking & Hiking in Mexico - http://johnbokma.com/ http://castleamber.com/ - Perl & Python Development
From: Grant Edwards on 4 Jun 2010 18:24 On 2010-06-04, John Bokma <john(a)castleamber.com> wrote: > Lie Ryan <lie.1296(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: >>> Steven D'Aprano <steve(a)REMOVE-THIS-cybersource.com.au> writes: >>> >>>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >>>> equals "better". >>> >>> I don't think that was the point. >>> >>> Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places >>> that have only one or maybe two. And if that's the choice and neither >>> carries Usenet you have to pay for Usenet like I do. Note that I >>> consider it well worth the 10 euros I pay for it. >> >> Isn't gmane available where you live? I've used gmane for newsgroups >> that my local server doesn't carry. The only problem is that there's a >> slight delay in opening new posts (0.5 seconds or so). > > I am aware of Gmane [1] but in their own words: "Gmane is a mailing list > archive.", so it's not Usenet. It's a Usenet server which provides > access to mailing lists. (A very cool idea). No, it's not a Usenet server. It's a mailing-list gateway that provides access via NNTP. Usenet is a peer-to-peer system that trasfers articles around between servers. NNTP is a protocol often used to provide access to Usenet servers (Usenet was around long before NNTP). NNTP can be used to provide access to other things (as Gmane does). -- Grant
From: Terry Reedy on 4 Jun 2010 21:06 On 6/4/2010 3:04 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... >> On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: >> >>> Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? >> >> Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> >> gmane.comp.python.general >> >> where <==> is a bi-directional gateway. > > Yes -- I use gmane as well. But, IIRC, I needed to be on the mail list > in order for my responses to show up because MailMan is the primary back > end and I thought it's set to only accept posts from members. I think this somewhat depends on the list (admin settings) > Hence, my question. Aren't we all members posting (ultimately) > exclusively through email regardless of preferred reading interfaces?
From: Lie Ryan on 4 Jun 2010 21:11
On 06/05/10 06:57, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan <lie.1296(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: >>> Phlip <phlip2005(a)gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra <debat...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >>>>>> questions, here??! >>>>> >>>>> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right >>>>> place for you. >>>> >>>> Ah, so you feel up to my "xsl for xmlrunner.py" question? >>> >>> Just jumping in the middle, but if you're looking for a web based forum >>> where you can ask questions, check out Stack Overflow (and sister sites, >>> depending on your question). I've noticed over the last couple of months >>> that often things I google for, are answered on Stack Overflow. One >>> thing that would've been nice to have on Usenet that I like is the >>> ability to vote answers up or down. I think Usenet would've been a bit >>> better with that option. >> >> Probably. A vote up/down feature tend to highlight popular problems, but >> it also buries less popular problems that might have perfectly good >> answers. > > Unless I misunderstand, the voting is for the replies, not for the > questions. Or maybe the questions can be promoted to a queue, no > idea. But that's not that different from questions posted to Usenet. The > popular ones are asked often, the less popular ones once in a while, and > might also not result in solutions. If you look at Stack Overflow, the highest voted questions are: - Hidden Features of C#? - What is the single most influential book every programmer should read? - What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon? - What is your best programmer joke? .... and so on many of them are nearly out-of-topic. >> I think Google Groups have 5-star-rating system? You might want >> to check on that. > > Brrrr... no, I really prefer my Usenet via Gnus ;-). |