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From: Jean Guillaume Pyraksos on 27 Jan 2010 08:01 What are the arguments for choosing Python against Ruby for introductory programming ? Python has no provisions for tail recursion, Ruby is going to... So what ? Thanks, JG
From: Stefan Behnel on 27 Jan 2010 08:04 Jean Guillaume Pyraksos, 27.01.2010 14:01: > What are the arguments for choosing Python against Ruby > for introductory programming ? PEP 20: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0020/ Stefan
From: Simon Brunning on 27 Jan 2010 08:47 2010/1/27 Jean Guillaume Pyraksos <wissme(a)hotmail.com>: > What are the arguments for choosing Python against Ruby > for introductory programming ? Frankly, either would be a good choice. I think Python is a little cleaner, but I'm sure you'd find Ruby fans who'd argue the complete opposite. Both have good ecosystems, (i.e. good communities, and plenty of good libraries and frameworks) - but Python is probably a bit ahead here having been around a bit longer. > Python has no provisions > for tail recursion, Ruby is going to... So what ? This would be a very strange reason to pick one language over the other - it's a very minor point. -- Cheers, Simon B.
From: Roald de Vries on 27 Jan 2010 09:56 On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Jean Guillaume Pyraksos wrote: > What are the arguments for choosing Python against Ruby > for introductory programming ? Python has no provisions > for tail recursion, Ruby is going to... So what ? > Thanks, I think the main difference is in culture, especially for *introductory* programming. For example, I have the impression that Rubyists like to write the same thing in as many ways as possible (example: rubyquiz.com), Python prefers one obvious way; this (arguably) makes Ruby more writable and Python more readable.
From: Jonathan Gardner on 27 Jan 2010 18:29
On Jan 27, 5:47 am, Simon Brunning <si...(a)brunningonline.net> wrote: > > I think Python is a little cleaner, but I'm sure you'd find Ruby fans > who'd argue the complete opposite. > Are you sure about that? There's a lot of line noise in Ruby. How are you supposed to pronounce "@@"? What about "{|..| ... }"? There's a lot of "magic" in Ruby as well. For instance, function calls are made without parentheses. Blocks can only appear as the first argument. There's a lot more, if you put your mind to it. Indentation is also optional in Ruby. You can quickly fool a newbie by not indenting your code properly, which is impossible in Python. Python is much, much cleaner. I don't know how anyone can honestly say Ruby is cleaner than Python. |