Question about HDCP displays
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From: JF Mezei on 25 Dec 2009 01:45 Downloaded a free preview of a Family Guy movie in HD. In Itunes, all I got was a grey screen, no sound. If I tried to open it in Quicktime, it told me I was not allowed to watch that movie on this display because it isn't HDCP enabled. (I have two NEC displays connected via DVI interfaces). Are Apple displays HDCP enabled ? Itunes is pretty useless if you buy HD movies and can't watch them , when you can get them in HD format from torrents without stupid DRM that prevents you from watching them ! If I were to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor cable and plug this into a real HD television, would the Mac then see this as HDCP capable display and allow me to watch such movies ? Or does the DVI->HDMI adaptor prevent the Mac from seeing that the display is truly an HD TV ?
From: Kevin McMurtrie on 25 Dec 2009 13:30 In article <017cde24$0$3213$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Downloaded a free preview of a Family Guy movie in HD. In Itunes, all I > got was a grey screen, no sound. > > If I tried to open it in Quicktime, it told me I was not allowed to > watch that movie on this display because it isn't HDCP enabled. (I have > two NEC displays connected via DVI interfaces). > > Are Apple displays HDCP enabled ? > > Itunes is pretty useless if you buy HD movies and can't watch them , > when you can get them in HD format from torrents without stupid DRM that > prevents you from watching them ! > > If I were to get a DVI to HDMI adaptor cable and plug this into a real > HD television, would the Mac then see this as HDCP capable display and > allow me to watch such movies ? Or does the DVI->HDMI adaptor prevent > the Mac from seeing that the display is truly an HD TV ? I don't think DVI supports it, and it's worse than just that. iTunes movies are permission-based DRM so they're only as good as long as Apple feels like supporting them. Like their music, I'll wait until the DRM is gone from their videos before using it. -- I won't see Google Groups replies because I must filter them as spam
From: Tom Harrington on 25 Dec 2009 22:52 In article <4b3504ca$0$1991$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: > I don't think DVI supports it, and it's worse than just that. iTunes > movies are permission-based DRM so they're only as good as long as Apple > feels like supporting them. Like their music, I'll wait until the DRM > is gone from their videos before using it. Congratulations, DRM has been gone from most of the music they sell for a while now. Go wild! -- Tom "Tom" Harrington Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002 http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Kevin McMurtrie on 26 Dec 2009 14:10 In article <tph-D2EB53.20520825122009(a)localhost>, Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote: > In article <4b3504ca$0$1991$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, > Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: > > > I don't think DVI supports it, and it's worse than just that. iTunes > > movies are permission-based DRM so they're only as good as long as Apple > > feels like supporting them. Like their music, I'll wait until the DRM > > is gone from their videos before using it. > > Congratulations, DRM has been gone from most of the music they sell for > a while now. Go wild! I know, I've been buying 256 Kbps AAC music from iTunes ever since they dropped DRM. The MP3s from Amazon have high frequency squeals on some songs that very annoying. Apple for video sucks. Nearly all of the HD movies are long-term rentals or only playable on Apple TV. What's available for rental in iTunes is low-res. It can't compete with Amazon VOD. -- I won't see Google Groups replies because I must filter them as spam
From: John McWilliams on 26 Dec 2009 14:27
Kevin McMurtrie wrote: > In article <tph-D2EB53.20520825122009(a)localhost>, > Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote: > >> In article <4b3504ca$0$1991$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, >> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie(a)pixelmemory.us> wrote: >> >>> I don't think DVI supports it, and it's worse than just that. iTunes >>> movies are permission-based DRM so they're only as good as long as Apple >>> feels like supporting them. Like their music, I'll wait until the DRM >>> is gone from their videos before using it. >> Congratulations, DRM has been gone from most of the music they sell for >> a while now. Go wild! > > I know, I've been buying 256 Kbps AAC music from iTunes ever since they > dropped DRM. The MP3s from Amazon have high frequency squeals on some > songs that very annoying. > > Apple for video sucks. Nearly all of the HD movies are long-term > rentals or only playable on Apple TV. What's available for rental in > iTunes is low-res. It can't compete with Amazon VOD. How low? My ATV displays at 720, and while I wish it were 1080 capable, good content at that rez displays pretty well on a 32" HDTV. A quick look at the Amazon VOD site implies that only Sony and Panny TVs or Blurays support this.... is it true 1080p? -- john mcwilliams |