From: John Duffield on
mpc: that C60 molecule is made out of aether displacement waves.
From: mpc755 on
On Mar 16, 12:04 pm, John Duffield <johnduffi...(a)btconnect.com> wrote:
> mpc: that C60 molecule is made out of aether displacement waves.

The C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the
slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. If the
detectors are at the exits to the slits when the C-60 molecule gets
there then the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit.

If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits
while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) then the C-60 molecule
creates an interference pattern.

How is this physically possible in your 'understanding' of nature?

The most correct answer, to date, is the C-60 molecule has an
associated aether displacement wave and it is the associated aether
displacement wave which enters and exits multiple slits. The C-60
molecule always enters and exits a single slit. When the associated
aether displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference which
alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Placing detectors at
the exits to the slits causes decoherence of the associated aether
displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: BURT on
On Mar 15, 11:06 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 1:55 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On 3/16/10 12:49 AM, mpc755 wrote:
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> > > On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 3/15/10 2:13 AM, mpc755 wrote:
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> > >>> In Aether Displacement, my theory, matter and aether are different
> > >>> states of the same material.
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> > >>     If your Aether existed, one would be able to detect it
> > >>     and measure measure its properties.
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> > > It is detectable. It is measurable. Every time a double slit
> > > experiment is performed the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single
> > > slit. It is the displacement wave in the aether the moving C-60
> > > molecule makes in the aether which enters and exits the available
> > > slits and creates interference upon exit the slits. This alters the
> > > direction the C-60 molecule travels.
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> >    What are some of its measured properties and how were the
> >    measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing equations.
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> Yes, the old I wish to remain ignorant so anything that has already
> been calculated is correct no matter how nonsensical it is. The
> delusional denial defense. Even though it is physically impossible for
> a C-60 molecule to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits
> simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a
> change in momentum, that is not what is important. What is important
> is the mathematics of QM are able to determine the type of
> interference pattern the C-60 molecule creates.
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> Never mind what QM requires of the C-60 molecule is physically
> impossible in nature. No, that is not what is important. For in QM, we
> make stuff up like 'wave function probabilities' are physical. No
> matter the fact that a wave function probability is a mathematical
> construct. That is not what is important. What is important is the
> ability to remain in a state of delusional denial.
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> Do you want to play the 'future determines the past' and other
> nonsensical answers from the delusional denial QM club? And here we
> go...
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> Detectors are placed at the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule
> is in the slits. If the detectors are left at the exits the C-60
> molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors
> are placed and then removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60
> molecule is in the slits the C-60 molecule creates and interference
> pattern.
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> How is this possible?
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> Only one of your delusional denial club members has even offered up an
> answer and the answer by your club member was the future determines
> the past. You read that right. The C-60 molecule will enter one or
> multiple slits depending upon there being, or not being, detectors at
> the exits to the slits when it gets there in the future.
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> In AD, the C-60 molecule always enters a single slit and the
> displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and
> exits multiple slits. Detectors at the exits to the slits causes
> decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns the
> wave into chop) and there is no interference. When the detectors are
> removed prior to the C-60 molecule exiting the slit the displacement
> wave exits the slits and creates interfere which alters the direction
> the C-60 molecule travels.
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There are more than one size for the aether waves. There are three
sizes.
Subatomic atomic and macro.

Mitch Raemsch
From: kenseto on
On Mar 16, 10:48 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/16/10 8:49 AM, kenseto wrote:
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> > Empty space by definition cannot have property. permittvity and
> > permeability are properties of a unique medium occupying space.
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> > Ken Seto
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>    Haven't you notice this property of space that it in expanding
>    at roughly 71 km/s/Mpc ?

Wormy it is not space that is expanding. It is the objects in the
medium that are moving apart wrt each other.
From: kenseto on
On Mar 16, 9:55 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 8:49 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 15, 2:57 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 15, 1:43 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 15, 2:27 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 15, 1:25 pm, "kens...(a)erinet.com" <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 15, 10:08 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Mar 15, 9:04 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Mar 15, 6:43 am, "Peter Webb"
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> > > > > > > > <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Not a whole lot to add to what Inertial in particular said.
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> > > > > > > > > In GR, gravity is a virtual force in a similar way to centrifugal force in
> > > > > > > > > Newton. In both cases its really an acceleration, and the force is just the
> > > > > > > > > product (literally) of this acceleration and the mass of the object.
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> > > > > > > > > Einstein in GR gave a geometric interpretation of what gravity is. This is
> > > > > > > > > very appealing, because it provides a mechanism for force at a distance.
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> > > > > > > > Wrong it provides no such physical mechanism. It merely assumes the
> > > > > > > > existence of a physical entity caLLED the fabric of spacetime for the
> > > > > > > > interacting object to follow. The problem with such assumption is:
> > > > > > > > What is the fabric of spacetime physically? This question is relevant
> > > > > > > > because SR/GR deny the existence of physical space.
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> > > > > > > > Ken Seto
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> > > > > > > What ?   ".... SR/GR deny the existence of physical space......."
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> > > > > > > What the devil are you saying man ?????
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> > > > > > > The theory of relativity says that gravity IS deformation of space.
> > > > > > > How can this same theory deny the existence of space ???  Better visit
> > > > > > > your optometrist really, really soon.
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> > > > > > Sigh...How can you deform space when space is defined by Einstein as
> > > > > > "empty space".????
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> > > > > Being empty means it has no matter in it. Having no matter in it does
> > > > > not mean that space cannot have physical properties. Physical
> > > > > properties are not limited to matter.
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> > > > Bullshit. fields are stresses in a solid medium occupying space
> > > > according to steven weinberg
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> > > Solid medium? He said nothing about an electric field being a stress
> > > in a solid medium.
> > > Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?
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> > Hey idiot...His said that in his book "Dream of a final theory"
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> I have that book. Cite the page. He does not say that fields are
> stresses in a solid medium.
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> > > Physical properties are not limited to matter.
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> > > You know that there is a permittivity of EMPTY SPACE? You know there
> > > is a permeability of EMPTY SPACE? You know there is an impedance of
> > > EMPTY SPACE? You know there is a gravitational potential in EMPTY
> > > SPACE
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> > Empty space by definition cannot have property.
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> That is incorrect. Empty space means devoid of matter. It does NOT
> mean devoid of physical properties.

Sure it does....no matter, no physical property.

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> > permittvity and
> > permeability are properties of a unique medium occupying space.
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> That is incorrect. Read your freshman physics text where these
> properties are discussed. These properties have been ascribed to empty
> space for 150 years.

Hey idiot These are not properties of empty space. They are properties
of a medium occupying space.

Ken Seto
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