Question about gravity
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From: Tom Roberts on 16 Mar 2010 15:11 mpc755 wrote: > On Mar 15, 3:40 pm, Tom Roberts <tjrob...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> [...] > > Or you can realize aether is displaced by matter and the pressure > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. To date, nobody has come up with a realistic model of that. All you have are rather vague words, mostly referring to concepts known to be refuted by ancient experiments. You have nothing, until and unless you can come up with a reasonably comprehensive theory that is not refuted by existing experiments. Tom Roberts
From: PD on 16 Mar 2010 15:11 On Mar 16, 2:10 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 16, 2:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 16, 3:04 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 16, 2:00 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 16, 2:48 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 3/16/10 1:06 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:55 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On 3/16/10 12:49 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >>> On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>> On 3/15/10 2:13 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> In Aether Displacement, my theory, matter and aether are different > > > > > >>>>> states of the same material. > > > > > > >>>> If your Aether existed, one would be able to detect it > > > > > >>>> and measure measure its properties. > > > > > > >>> It is detectable. It is measurable. Every time a double slit > > > > > >>> experiment is performed the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single > > > > > >>> slit. It is the displacement wave in the aether the moving C-60 > > > > > >>> molecule makes in the aether which enters and exits the available > > > > > >>> slits and creates interference upon exit the slits. This alters the > > > > > >>> direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > > > > >> What are some of its measured properties and how were the > > > > > >> measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing equations. > > > > > > > Yes, the old I wish to remain ignorant so anything that has already > > > > > > been calculated is correct no matter how nonsensical it is. The > > > > > > delusional denial defense. Even though it is physically impossible for... > > > > > > You haven't answered my question! > > > > > I did. Even if you think I didn't why are you afraid to answer mine? > > > > "I did. It's there somewhere. OK, even if it's not there, I did > > > anyway. So let's pretend I did, and now answer my question, or admit > > > that you're afraid to answer it." > > > > Geez, if you were any good at manipulation, then at least you'd be > > > fun, but as it is you're just being pathetic. > > > The definition of pathetic is your 'understanding' of nature. > > > In one post you say gravity is most likely due to quanta even though > > attempting to understand quanta as the reason for gravity hurts your > > conceptually deficient head at the same time you state non-material > > light waves travel through a void. > > > So, what is it? Is gravity due to quanta > > Most likely. That's what I said. > > > or is space a void? > > It is devoid of matter, though it is not devoid of physical > properties. That's what I said. > > Now, feel free to ask me another question about something I did not > say. Oh, and 4+17=32
From: mpc755 on 16 Mar 2010 15:16 In article <cZGdneEGQuFVSgLW4p2dnAA(a)giganews.com>, tjrob137 @sbcglobal.net says... > > mpc755 wrote: > > On Mar 15, 3:40 pm, Tom Roberts <tjrob...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> [...] > > > > Or you can realize aether is displaced by matter and the pressure > > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > To date, nobody has come up with a realistic model of that. All you have are > rather vague words, mostly referring to concepts known to be refuted by ancient > experiments. You have nothing, until and unless you can come up with a > reasonably comprehensive theory that is not refuted by existing experiments. > > > Tom Roberts The closest model to Aether Displacement is 'curved spacetime'. However, 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? 'Space'? What is meant by 'space' is being curved by matter? What is 'space'? Are we discussing three dimensional space? For those who believe in the absurd nonsense of a wave function probability as physically existing in nature then I am sure they have no problem with it being three dimensional space which is being curved. Which is meaningless nonsense because the matter is now occupying that three dimensional space. So, what is physicallly being curved? What is the material of space? The material of space is aether. Is the aether 'curved' by matter? It is more accurate to state the aether is displaced by matter.
From: mpc755 on 16 Mar 2010 15:18 In article <5de7f693-2ded-4ba8-b3d0-ebb76db8285c@ 19g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, thedraperfamily(a)gmail.com says... > > On Mar 16, 2:10 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 16, 2:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 3:04 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 16, 2:00 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 2:48 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 3/16/10 1:06 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:55 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >> On 3/16/10 12:49 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> On Mar 16, 1:31 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> On 3/15/10 2:13 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> In Aether Displacement, my theory, matter and aether are different > > > > > > >>>>> states of the same material. > > > > > > > > >>>> If your Aether existed, one would be able to detect it > > > > > > >>>> and measure measure its properties. > > > > > > > > >>> It is detectable. It is measurable. Every time a double slit > > > > > > >>> experiment is performed the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single > > > > > > >>> slit. It is the displacement wave in the aether the moving C-60 > > > > > > >>> molecule makes in the aether which enters and exits the available > > > > > > >>> slits and creates interference upon exit the slits. This alters the > > > > > > >>> direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > > > > > > >> What are some of its measured properties and how were the > > > > > > >> measurements made. Cite publications and/or governing equations. > > > > > > > > > Yes, the old I wish to remain ignorant so anything that has already > > > > > > > been calculated is correct no matter how nonsensical it is. The > > > > > > > delusional denial defense. Even though it is physically impossible for... > > > > > > > > You haven't answered my question! > > > > > > > I did. Even if you think I didn't why are you afraid to answer mine? > > > > > > "I did. It's there somewhere. OK, even if it's not there, I did > > > > anyway. So let's pretend I did, and now answer my question, or admit > > > > that you're afraid to answer it." > > > > > > Geez, if you were any good at manipulation, then at least you'd be > > > > fun, but as it is you're just being pathetic. > > > > > The definition of pathetic is your 'understanding' of nature. > > > > > In one post you say gravity is most likely due to quanta even though > > > attempting to understand quanta as the reason for gravity hurts your > > > conceptually deficient head at the same time you state non-material > > > light waves travel through a void. > > > > > So, what is it? Is gravity due to quanta > > > > Most likely. That's what I said. > > > > > or is space a void? > > > > It is devoid of matter, though it is not devoid of physical > > properties. That's what I said. > > > > Now, feel free to ask me another question about something I did not > > say. > > Oh, and 4+17=32 Does space consist of quanta or is space a void?
From: PD on 16 Mar 2010 15:21
On Mar 16, 2:16 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <cZGdneEGQuFVSgLW4p2d...(a)giganews.com>, tjrob137 > @sbcglobal.net says... > > > > > mpc755 wrote: > > > On Mar 15, 3:40 pm, Tom Roberts <tjrob...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >> [...] > > > > Or you can realize aether is displaced by matter and the pressure > > > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. > > > To date, nobody has come up with a realistic model of that. All you have are > > rather vague words, mostly referring to concepts known to be refuted by ancient > > experiments. You have nothing, until and unless you can come up with a > > reasonably comprehensive theory that is not refuted by existing experiments. > > > Tom Roberts > > The closest model to Aether Displacement is 'curved spacetime'. However, > 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical > description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? 'Space'? What > is meant by 'space' is being curved by matter? What is 'space'? Are we > discussing three dimensional space? No, we are talking about 4D spacetime. If you don't know know what the subject of discussion is, and you don't know the meaning of the words being used, why would you enter into the conversation saying that it's nonsense when you don't even know what's being talked about? Does this approach work for you at parties? or have you never been to one to try? > For those who believe in the absurd > nonsense of a wave function probability as physically existing in nature > then I am sure they have no problem with it being three dimensional > space which is being curved. Which is meaningless nonsense because the > matter is now occupying that three dimensional space. > > So, what is physicallly being curved? What is the material of space? The > material of space is aether. Is the aether 'curved' by matter? > > It is more accurate to state the aether is displaced by matter. |