From: mpc755 on 16 Mar 2010 21:08 On Mar 16, 8:29 pm, Darwin123 <drosen0...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 15, 2:42 am, MicroTech <henry.ko.nor...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> Can someone in this forum please help me sort out a confusing issue? > > > Many scientists (including Einstein) claim that gravity is not a > > force, but the effect of mass on the "fabric of spacetime". > > I don't think the two concepts are mutually exclusive. > What exactly is a "force"? If you can't provide a specific > definition of force, or provide a definition of "spacetime", then you > can't say that a force has nothing to do with spacetime. The 'force' associated with 'spacetime' is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by the massive object. Gravity: Pressure associated with aether displaced by massive objects. The pressure associated with the aether determines the rate at which atomic clocks tick.
From: Tom Roberts on 16 Mar 2010 23:43 mpc755 wrote: > 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical > description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? [...] Nothing "physical" is involved, this is GEOMETRY. Until you actually LEARN something about the subject, there's no point in continuing. Tom Roberts
From: mpc755 on 17 Mar 2010 00:10 On Mar 16, 11:43 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > mpc755 wrote: > > 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical > > description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? [...] > > Nothing "physical" is involved, this is GEOMETRY. > Not only do we have the absurd nonsense of a 'wave function probability' is physical. Now we have geometry being the cause of gravity. Until you understand there is a difference between what occurs 'physically' in nature and mathematics you should not continue. Definition of spacetime: Pressure associated with aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
From: mpc755 on 17 Mar 2010 00:19 On Mar 16, 11:43 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > mpc755 wrote: > > 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical > > description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? [...] > > Nothing "physical" is involved, this is GEOMETRY. > > Until you actually LEARN something about the subject, there's no point in > continuing. > > Tom Roberts Not only do we have the absurd nonsense of a 'wave function probability' is physical. Now we have geometry being the cause of gravity. Until you understand there is a difference between what occurs 'physically' in nature and mathematics you should not continue. Definition of spacetime: Pressure of aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
From: mpc755 on 17 Mar 2010 00:25
On Mar 16, 11:43 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > mpc755 wrote: > > 'curved spacetime' is meaningless nonsense in terms of a physical > > description of nature. What is physically being 'curved'? [...] > > Nothing "physical" is involved, this is GEOMETRY. > > Until you actually LEARN something about the subject, there's no point in > continuing. > > Tom Roberts Not only do we have the absurd nonsense of a 'wave function probability' is physical. Geometry is now the cause of gravity. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Until you understand there is a difference between what occurs 'physically' in nature and mathematics you should not continue. Definition of spacetime: Pressure of aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist. |