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From: Ari on 21 Apr 2010 21:23
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:03:14 -0300, Shadow wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:10:28 -0400, Ari <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:19:04 -0700, QuickSilver wrote:
>
>>> As noted, this program is a 'lite' version. In QS Lite, the main
>>> window is an editor window. Much like if you took an editor window
>>> out of QS1 and made that a program. It supports PGP, TLS/SSL,
>>> sending direct to remailers, Linux/Wine, and even installation on
>>> USB drives. No POP3 or nyms. I'm releasing it open-source GPL v3.
>>>
>>> See this link for a further listing of features:
>>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net/qslite/qslfeatures.html
>>>
>>> Here's the link to the HTTP download page:
>>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net/qslite
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Christman
>>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net
>>
>>Richard, thanks very much for the hard work.
>>
>>However, the "experts" on alt.comp.freeware claims
>>
>>"Well, if you believe in CNN AND untraceable internet access, you
>>DESERVE this program. I feeeaaaarrrr "internet kooks" !!!"
>>
> If he announced it as a "free ssl enabled newsreader" .....

Do you have a clue, any at all, what QS9L) is?

> but claiming it cannot be traced ? A court order and you are certainly
> traced.

Really? Explain how? Considering that cryptologists everywhere have
proclaimed that the mixmaster/remailer approach kills all traces of
who and where anything (email, posts to Usenet, etc) is coming from
and the contents are undecipherable.

> CNN here in Brazil is famous for it's "cooked" and "bought"
> articles. Nobody thinks it's trustworthy at all. A very bad
> comparison.

You really have no idea what you are blithering about, do you?

> (I got the description directly from the web site.)
> I'm no expert. Time will tell. If it's good, there will be
> thousands of users. If he is on the level, I wish him the best of
> luck.
> []'s

Nope, you don't.

Nice attempt to stick your foot in your mouth...and attempt to unstick
it from your tongue.

lol
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From: Ari on 21 Apr 2010 21:38
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:40:04 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio wrote:

>> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:19:04 -0700, QuickSilver wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess you thought you'd seen the last of me. What can I say
>> After an extended period away, I eventually got the urge to play
>> around with some new QS ideas.
>
>> As noted, this program is a 'lite' version. In QS Lite, the main
>> window is an editor window. Much like if you took an editor window
>> out of QS1 and made that a program. It supports PGP, TLS/SSL,
>> sending direct to remailers, Linux/Wine, and even installation on
>> USB drives. No POP3 or nyms. I'm releasing it open-source GPL v3.
>
>> See this link for a further listing of features:
>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net/qslite/qslfeatures.html
>
>> For many of you, this new program will do just what you need. At
>> what it does, it's a much better program than QS1. The code is
>> mostly new so there aren't bugs carried over. All support programs
>> and libraries are included in the distribution. It can coexist with
>> all other software, so, if you only care to install long enough to
>> take a look, it's no problem. Have a look. When installed to any
>> directory other than \Program Files\ it will keep everything
>> (binaries, config, data) in it's home directory. No registry or
>> start menu entries are made. Just delete the directory to
>> completely remove the program.
>
>> I feel confident that most QS users will want this program, even if
>> they don't use it full-time over QS1. If your primary use of QS is
>> posting to newsgroups, you'll love QS Lite.
>
>> I've worked very hard to create a complete, searchable, html help
>> system. Of course, I'm sure you can give me tips to make it better.
>> I'll appreciate your input on the subject. Also, please report
>> typos, bad grammar, etc. It's best to just report the typo and
>> page. Sending complete, corrected text doesn't work for me.
>
>> The program has had limited testing so far. This is the official
>> start of beta testing. There will be bugs. I'm here to ask your
>> assistance. If you like QS, I'd appreciate your help. On the other
>> hand, please don't attempt to test this program if you aren't ready
>> to encounter and report bugs. If you do test, please send bug
>> reports to 'bugs' at my site.
>
>> I'll be following this thread and note your responses. Beyond that,
>> I'm sure this group can handle some QS discussion, but if you want
>> to discuss this with me, please don't post your questions, etc
>> here, I likely won't see them. You can always contact me at
>> 'support' at my site--or even better, join the qslitelist mailing
>> list. You'll find a link to the qslitelist in the program
>> Help/Appendix/Support topic. Notice of updates will be posted to
>> that mailing list only.
>
>> Here's the link to the HTTP download page:
>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net/qslite
>
>> Regards,
>
>> Richard Christman
>> https://www.quicksilvermail.net
>
>> Richard, thanks very much for the hard work.
>
>> However, the "experts" on alt.comp.freeware claims
>
>> "Well, if you believe in CNN AND untraceable internet access, you
>> DESERVE this program. I feeeaaaarrrr "internet kooks" !!!"
>
>> <snicker>
>
> The girl and others who run that group are first rate people, but many of the participants are really immature scum.

The grrl and the others that run an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup?

*lol*
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From: Shadow on 21 Apr 2010 21:58
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:23:20 -0400, Ari <AriSilverstein(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> If he announced it as a "free ssl enabled newsreader" .....
>
>Do you have a clue, any at all, what QS9L) is?
Nope. Explain pls.
>
>> but claiming it cannot be traced ? A court order and you are certainly
>> traced.
>
>Really? Explain how? Considering that cryptologists everywhere have
>proclaimed that the mixmaster/remailer approach kills all traces of
>who and where anything (email, posts to Usenet, etc) is coming from
>and the contents are undecipherable.
There will be a man-in-the-middle attack soon enough. Pick the
transmission up at the local ISP. Decrypt it before it gets
pulverized. People eventually slip up, and post a pointer as to where
they are.
>
>> CNN here in Brazil is famous for it's "cooked" and "bought"
>> articles. Nobody thinks it's trustworthy at all. A very bad
>> comparison.
>
>You really have no idea what you are blithering about, do you?
Yep. Seen these untraceable schemes before.
>
>> (I got the description directly from the web site.)
>> I'm no expert. Time will tell. If it's good, there will be
>> thousands of users. If he is on the level, I wish him the best of
>> luck.
>> []'s
>
>Nope, you don't.
Yes, I don't. Think he's on the level, I mean. The "time will
tell" bit was on the level, though. And I really hope he succeeds,
even if it's only to benefit all those "Chinese" users(I was going to
write patriot-act Americans, but don't want to start a flame-war)
BUT if he does succeed, they'll make it illegal to transmit
that kind of data.
>
>Nice attempt to stick your foot in your mouth...and attempt to unstick
>it from your tongue.
TY
From: starwars on 25 Apr 2010 15:56
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:03:14 -0300, Shadow wrote:

>>
> If he announced it as a "free ssl enabled newsreader" .....
> but claiming it cannot be traced ? A court order and you are certainly
> traced.

Maybe the misunderstanding is that you think the author of qs lite is
claiming that it will let you read newsgroups without anybody knowing you
are reading them.

That is not what he is talking about.

His utility, qs lite, lets you *post* to newsgroups without being traced.

From: Anonymous on 25 Apr 2010 23:58
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:10:02 -0300, Shadow wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:56:52 +0200 (CEST), starwars
> <nonscrivetemi(a)tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:03:14 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If he announced it as a "free ssl enabled newsreader" .....
>>> but claiming it cannot be traced ? A court order and you are certainly
>>> traced.
>>
>>Maybe the misunderstanding is that you think the author of qs lite is
>>claiming that it will let you read newsgroups without anybody knowing
>>you are reading them.
>>
>>That is not what he is talking about.
>>
>>His utility, qs lite, lets you *post* to newsgroups without being
>>traced.
> If you get a receipt, even if it's only a "message received"
> the path must be traceable, even if the message is split into two or
> three streams.

You really have the wrong idea about how this works: there is no receipt
sent back to you when you post to a newsgroup or send an email through a
chain of remailers using QS Lite or any other remailer software.

The only thing in the headers of the message that arrives at the
newsgroup is information about the last remailer in the chain. There may
be 3 or 4 remailers before that in the chain. The path cannot be traced.

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