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From: Me, ...again! on 7 Jun 2010 07:45


On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Sue... wrote:

> On Jun 7, 3:43 am, "Peter Webb" <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au>
> wrote:
>> __________________________________
>>
>>>> Yes, so? Are you claiming that the thousands of experiments that confirm
>>>> SR all have flaws? How do you explain how particle accelerators that are
>>>> built using SR work if SR is false?
>>
>>> No, only hedging my "position" to account for the two schools of thought.
>>
>
> ==============
>
>> I am aware of only one "school of thought".
>>
>> I have heard zero - lets repeat that, zero - alternative theories to SR.
>
> Indeed. I keep my pet-rock around for exactly
> that reason.

Now that is something. A pet rock!

Do you also have the accompanying manual? "How to feed and maintain your
pet rock"? Or something along those lines? I've seen it.

I have considered a dog might
> be a good alternative, but they tend to pee
> on the floor at the worst possible time and
> place.

May I suggest birds and/or squirrels? Alive, animate, inexpensive to feed,
and live outside the house, sleep in trees outside the house at night (so
never have to worry about "mess" on the floor, bad smells later, chewed up
scratched up furniture, lawsuits from visitors attacked by the dog (eg.
pit bulls, etc)? I have spoiled a small "troupe" of nearby squirrels who
come every morning to my treat of about 40 cents worth of shelled peanuts
(from the hardware store). Loads of fun to watch. The birds watch me, too.
When I load up the feeders, the birds fly down within 10-20 seconds
..and..glompf, glompf, glompf.


Unless the stuff below is a spoof, I'll admit that I don't follow it and I
don't understand it, either.


> << one of Einstein's two main reasons for
> abandoning special relativity as a suitable
> framework for physics was the fact that, no
> less than Newtonian mechanics, special relativity
> is based on the unjustified and epistemologically
> problematical assumption of a preferred class
> of reference frames, precisely the issue raised
> by the twins paradox. Today the "special theory"
> exists only, aside from its historical
> importance, as a convenient set of widely
> applicable formulas for important limiting
> cases of the general theory, but the epistemological
> foundation of those formulas must be sought
> in the context of the general theory.>>
> http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s4-07/4-07.htm
>
> Sue...
>
> [Hell's fire and damnation unsnipped]
>
>> What exist by the crank-case full are theories which claim to be different
>> to SR, but are in fact mathematically identical in their predictions and so
>> are the same theory dressed up in different verbiage.
>>
>> For you to demonstrate a second "school of thought", you have to produce an
>> alternative theory which has more than one or two nutcases proposing it - a
>> "school" as it were, and it has to be different to SR in that it makes
>> testably different predictions, and it has to explain the huge body of
>> experimental evidence.
>>
>> This does not exist.
>>
>> There is no "second school of thought" with respect to the predictions of
>> Special Relativity, and there is no point on hedging yourself against SR
>> being wrong.
>
>
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