From: Chazwin on
On Jul 14, 2:28 am, Shrikeback <shrikeb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 5:38 pm, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Softer sciences like biology and medicine are more empirical.  If they
> > are doing meta studies it's not a hard science.
>
> Idiot.  Biology and medicine _are_ hard sciences.
> Soft sciences are those fields of study that have
> some of the accoutrements of sciences but really
> aren't sciences, so we put them in the School of
> Humanities.  You know, such as psychology and
> sociology.

.... and climatology
From: Eric Gisin on
Wow, Brat, you must be a philosofur. Show us your PhD!

"Bret Cahill" <Bret_E_Cahill(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Fields of the natural or physical sciences are often described as
>> hard, while the social sciences and similar fields are often described
>> as soft. The hard sciences are characterized as relying on
>> experimental, empirical, quantifiable data,
>
> Hard sciences would certainly be more theoretical than soft sciences,
> in other words, _less_ empirical.
>
> Einstein didn't conduct any empirical studies whatsoever before
> writing the most important "hard" science paper of the 20th Century.
>
> Softer sciences like biology and medicine are more empirical. If they
> are doing meta studies it's not a hard science.
>

From: Bret Cahill on
> Wow,

Git a Pell grant and sum book larnin and mebbe you won't look so doggy
poppy stoopid.

> >> Fields of the natural or physical sciences are often described as
> >> hard, while the social sciences and similar fields are often described
> >> as soft.  The hard sciences are characterized as relying on
> >> experimental, empirical, quantifiable data,
>
> > Hard sciences would certainly be more theoretical than soft sciences,
> > in other words, _less_ empirical.
>
> > Einstein didn't conduct any empirical studies whatsoever before
> > writing the most important "hard" science paper of the 20th Century.
>
> > Softer sciences like biology and medicine are more empirical.  If they
> > are doing meta studies it's not a hard science.
From: erschroedinger on
On Jul 15, 1:17 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > Wow,
>
> Git a Pell grant and sum book larnin and mebbe you won't look so doggy
> poppy stoopid.

>

Naw, he'd consider Pell grants socialist, as they come from money the
gov't stole from the rich, and they're given out equally to people.
From: Autymn D. C. on
On Jul 13, 6:32 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Fortunately many scientists pay only lip service to the formal
> approach, and focus on knowledge, which is the real meaning of
> "science" (from the Latin root for knowing - in other languages the
> usage is the same, as with the German "Wissenschaft"). I once attended

Another illiterate scientist--knowing is gnoscendus. Scientia means
cunninghead (collective plural feminine), and scire means cunnan.
Wittan/wissen is sapere. Dumb Thewds; scio calcitrare vestrum culum.

> a lecture by a very severe Professor who had his students analyse 400

severe := stark
I didn't know Professor was someone's name.

-Aut

> papers in the scientific literature, finding that only two of them
> followed "correct" scientific procedure. This is good news, since it
> means that 99.5% of scientists (398/400) disagree with him.

> http://bill.silvert.org/notions/ecology/hardsoft.htm