From: George Hammond on 23 Jul 2010 23:01 ____ | | ========= | | ========= | | ========= | | | | | | | | / \ / \ ===== THE DJED-PILLAR The Djed-pillar was a ubiquitous divine symbol in ancient Egypt. It ranks perhaps second only to the Ankh as a religious symbol yet no one knows the origin of the Djed-pillar. Budge thought it was a mason's table which I find incredible while some have suggested it was originally a Nileometer. Doubtlessly the suggestive psychological form of the object places it in the common "Venetian blind" category which is well known to evoke a visual nuance of transcendence. In addition, there was a well established Heb-Sed ceremony known as the "Raising of the Djed-pillar" which is shown in a startling realistic bas-relief in the temple of Seti-I at Abydos. The act of "raising" the pillar seems to add force to the conjecture that the Venetian blind like structure does indeed symbolize "transcendent perception", and that the Pharaoh perhaps was held responsible for "raising the bar" of the general perceptual level of the population. The Djed pillar in other words was the pre-Christian symbol of what is referred to as the "transfiguration" in modern religion... or perhaps more accurately the "Holy Spirit" itself. The modern "Cross" has long since replaced the Ankh and one wonders if perhaps the Nimbus (i.e. "halo") of modern Christian art has perhaps replaced the Djed symbol? Does Anyone have any other theories as to what the symbolic meaning of the Djed-pillar actually was or from whence the physical form of the object originated? George Hammond ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: eric gisse on 24 Jul 2010 15:20 George Hammond wrote: [...] Looks like [Hammond] is out of the ward again.
From: Immortalist on 24 Jul 2010 23:31 On Jul 23, 8:01 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > ____ > | | > ========= > | | > ========= > | | > ========= > | | > | | > | | > | | > / \ > / \ > ===== > > THE DJED-PILLAR > > The Djed-pillar was a ubiquitous divine symbol in ancient > Egypt. It ranks perhaps second only to the Ankh as a > religious symbol yet no one knows the origin of the > Djed-pillar. Budge thought it was a mason's table which I > find incredible while some have suggested it was originally > a Nileometer. > Doubtlessly the suggestive psychological form of the > object places it in the common "Venetian blind" category > which is well known to evoke a visual nuance of > transcendence. > In addition, there was a well established Heb-Sed > ceremony known as the "Raising of the Djed-pillar" which is > shown in a startling realistic bas-relief in the temple of > Seti-I at Abydos. The act of "raising" the pillar seems to > add force to the conjecture that the Venetian blind like > structure does indeed symbolize "transcendent perception", > and that the Pharaoh perhaps was held responsible for > "raising the bar" of the general perceptual level of the > population. The Djed pillar in other words was the > pre-Christian symbol of what is referred to as the > "transfiguration" in modern religion... or perhaps more > accurately the "Holy Spirit" itself. > The modern "Cross" has long since replaced the Ankh and > one wonders if perhaps the Nimbus (i.e. "halo") of modern > Christian art has perhaps replaced the Djed symbol? > Does Anyone have any other theories as to what the > symbolic meaning of the Djed-pillar actually was or from > whence the physical form of the object originated? > George Hammond Looks like a hard problem after poking around the web, lots of dead ends. Soon after its first appearance 8,000 years ago cattle cults became widespread, leading some scholars to propose cattle were domesticated mainly for religious purposes. Calvin Schwabe: This was the largest animal, the bravest animal, the swiftest, the most libidinous animal, and he was much admired by early chiefs. for three thousand years the Pharaoh's principal epithet was mighty bull. Jonica Newby: Even the great pharoahs held the mighty bull in awe. Which ultimately held the key to what, for most of this century, was one of the greatest riddles in Egyptology. The mystery concerned three of most important hieroglyphics in ancient Egypt. Although their meanings were quite quickly deciphered, no one could work out their origin. They were: the Ankh - symbol of life; the Djed - symbol of stability; And the Was - the staff held by the Pharaohs - symbol of power and dominion. The clues to the mystery were everywhere, but it would take a veterinarian working in Africa to see what the Egyptologists could not. The eureka moment came during a routine autopsy, as Professor Calvin Schwabe sliced through the back of a bulls spine. Calvin Schwabe: So I exposed against the red of the muscle, muscles of the animal, the white thoracic vertebra and just entered my head, that's the Ankh. Jonica Newby: He realised he had the answer to the Pharaohs' ancient riddle. The thoracic vertebra was the source of the Ankh. The base of the spine, the sacrum, was the source of the Djed. Image: Calvin ScwabeBut what about the Was? There aren't any bones that look like that. Which part of the anatomy could it be? The solution took a lesson in ancient Egyptian biology. The Egyptians believed that semen was formed in the spinal fluid, if you understand that, the rest makes sense. So the essence of life starts here in the Ankh - it flows down through the vertebral canal, past the strong base of the spine (the Djed), and out through the penis, the Was - symbol of power. Schwabe:Here's a dried bull's penis. Now this is a domestic bull. It's about a meter long. This was carried as a staff by the gods and also by the Pharoah. You can dry it so it's absolutely straight. Here is a bull calf, just to get one that's a reasonable size, and this is dried straight and is dried in this same position so you can make a Was very easily. Jonica Newby: The power of cattle went well beyond the merely symbolic. But before it could be harnessed, there were two small problem to overcome. If you think this looks like a lot of bull, you should have seen its ancestor, the mighty auroch. It was much taller, its horns were a metre long - and it could use them. The real key to harnessing the power of this ancient monster was back here. It's what you don't see that matters. It took the invention of castration - removing the much- admired libido - that was the key to making the beast tractable. Once in traction, cattle drove the emerging economies of the ancient world. Humanity had an energy source greater than our own muscles. Simple digging stick agriculture was replaced by intensive cultivation. And with the wealth generated by large scale farming, for the first time people could specialise. They could become writers, painters and politicians. They could create civilisation. Jared Diamond: With agriculture, we developed political organisation, we developed the ability to feed specialists, including people who'd invent metal tools and writing and printing presses. We develop the needs for tax-collectors and we developed organized religion. All of that came after the rise of farming. http://www.abc.net.au/animals/program2/transcript2.htm How did they build the pyramids? ...the use of the wind to lift and move large stones... ....The djed pillar is the symbol of stability, often standing on Maat, the god of truth (a solid foundation). The pillar has three places near its top where ropes may be wound around the pillar. The ropes might be used to hold a kite from flying away. In some illustrations the middle groove has both of the eyes of Horus or is simply colored red. It could be that the rope from the middle section went up to the kite Horus. The other two rope sections are colored black and might have been anchored to the ground. The pillar was the tool that allowed the kite and its load to move laterally to the wind direction. http://www.everleaf.com/pyramids/egypt.htm According to Wallis Budge, the Djed is the oldest symbol of Osiris, and symbolizes his backbone and his body in general. He states that originally Osiris was probably represented by the Djed alone, and that he had no other form. He regards the Djed hieroglyph as a conventional representation of a part of his spinal column and gives its meaning as "to be stable, to be permanent, abiding, established firmly, enduring. The reconstruction of the body of Osiris occurred at a place called Djedu,in the Delta region of Lower Egypt and it was here that the yearly ceremony of 'Raising the Djed Pillar' took place on the last day of the month of Khoiak, the eve of the agricultural New Year. The next day marked the beginning of the four month long season of Pert, or 'Going Forth' during which the lands rose out of the flood waters allowing the fields to be sown.Djedu was also referred to as Per-Asar- Neb-Djedu, meaning "The House of Osiris - the Lord of Djedu". The Greeks called it Busiris, after the shortened title Per-Asar - "The House of Osiris" Mythologically, the 'Raising of the Djed' symbolised the resurrection of Osiris, and with its annual re-enactment represented the death and renewal of the yearly cycle. Osiris is referred to as "Lord of the Year" in the Pyramid Texts 7 and that he was also the god of agriculture meant that his annual resurrection ensured the stability of the abundance of the next season's crops. http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/ http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/Djedspine2.gif http://www.pyramidofman.com/Djed/Djedspine.gif It was probably at Memphis that kings first performed a ceremony known as "raising the djed pillar", which not only served as a metaphor for the stability of the monarch, but also symbolized the resurrection of Osiris. Our best record of this ceremony comes from a depiction in the Osiris Hall at Abydos. It was eventually incorporated into one of the Sed Festivals of Amenhotep III at Thebes. This ceremony, performed as early as the Middle Kingdom, took place at the time when the flood was at its height. Overall known as the Feast of Khoiak, it began with an effigy of the dead god, cast in gold and filled with a mixture of sand and grain. As the waters were receding from the inundation and grain was being planted in the land, the effigy was watered daily. Then, for three days, it was floated on the waters of the Nile, and on the twenty-fourth day of the ancient Egyptian month of Khoiak, it was placed in a coffin and laid in a grave. On the thirtieth day, the effigy was actually buried. This seven day delay represented the god's seven-day gestation in the womb of Nut, his mother. On the last day, the king and priests raised a djed pillar as a symbol of Osiris' rejuvenation and strength, apparently at a placed in the Delta known as Djedu (Greek Busiris). Now, the land would be fertile for yet another year. The next day marked the four month long season of Pert (Going Forth) during which the land appeared to rise up out of the flood waters allowing the fields to be planted. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/djedpillar.htm It is comparable to the Sumerian counterpart of the temen (temple), and equated with the potency and duration of the pharaoh's rule... ...Over time, the djed pillar came to represent the more abstract ideas of stability and permanency... http://www.crystalinks.com/djed.html http://www.crystalinks.com/djedwasrelief.jpg Prior to the construction of the Aswan Dam, the Nile river would flood annually, replenishing Egypt's soil. This gave the country consistent harvest throughout the year. Many knew this event as The Gift of the Nile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flooding_of_the_Nile The ancient Egyptians celebrated the passion (suffering before fatal dismemberment) of the god Osiris, and celebrated his resurrection in the Spring, coinciding with the flooding of the Nile (and rebirth of vegetation). The Greek god Dionysus was also a god of fertility whose resurrection was celebrated in the Spring. In the ancient Mediterranean Osiris-Dionysus mystery religions celebrated life, death and rebirth through secret rites involving sacramental wine. Osiris and his wife Isis were reputed to have been divine secular rulers of Egypt until Osiris was murdered by his jealous brother Seth. Seth cut the body of Osiris into 14 pieces and strew them about the land. Isis gathered up the pieces with the exception of the genitals, which had been eaten by a fish and restored Osiris to life. Osiris then dwelled in the underworld as the king & judge of the dead. Isis nonetheless gave birth to the divine child "Horus the younger" (presumably a virgin birth). http://www.benbest.com/history/xmas.html http://www.egyptianmyths.net/mythisis.htm Another tree, the willow (tcheret) was sacred to Osiris; it was the willow which sheltered his body after he was killed. Many towns in Egypt with tombs in which a part of the dismembered Osiris was believed to be buried had groves of willows associated with them. http://witcombe.sbc.edu/sacredplaces/trees.html http://www.egyptianmyths.net/tree.htm It was sacred to Osiris and gave shade to his coffin while his soul rested on it in the guise of the phoenix. In some versions of the myth it was the willow which grew around the coffin protecting it, in others it was the persea. Trees were possibly less important in the Egyptian religion than in others. But some trees had divine connections, being home, birthplace or resting place of some deities. http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/botany/willow.htm http://www.deathreference.com/A-Bi/Anthropological-Perspective.html > ======================================== > GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE > Primary sitehttp://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond > Mirror site > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com > HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto > http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 > =======================================
From: George Hammond on 25 Jul 2010 01:30 On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist <reanimater_2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Jul 23, 8:01�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >> � � � � ____ >> � � � � | � � �| >> ========= >> � � � � | � � �| >> ========= >> � � � � | � � �| >> ========= >> � � � � | � � �| >> � � � � | � � �| >> � � � � | � � �| >> � � � � | � � �| >> � � � �/ � � � �\ >> � � � / � � � � �\ >> � � � ===== >> >> THE DJED-PILLAR >> >> � �The Djed-pillar was a ubiquitous divine symbol in ancient >> Egypt. �It ranks perhaps second only to the Ankh as a >> religious symbol yet no one knows the origin of the >> Djed-pillar. �Budge thought it was a mason's table which I >> find incredible while some have suggested it was originally >> a Nileometer. >> � �Doubtlessly the suggestive psychological form of the >> object places it in the common "Venetian blind" category >> which is well known to evoke a visual nuance of >> transcendence. >> � �In addition, there was a well established Heb-Sed >> ceremony known as the "Raising of the Djed-pillar" which is >> shown in a startling realistic bas-relief in the temple of >> Seti-I at Abydos. �The act of "raising" the pillar seems to >> add force to the conjecture that the Venetian blind like >> structure does indeed symbolize "transcendent perception", >> and that the Pharaoh perhaps was held responsible for >> "raising the bar" of the general perceptual level of the >> population. �The Djed pillar in other words was the >> pre-Christian symbol of what is referred to as the >> "transfiguration" in modern religion... or perhaps more >> accurately the "Holy Spirit" itself. >> � The modern "Cross" has long since replaced the Ankh and >> one wonders if perhaps the Nimbus (i.e. "halo") of modern >> Christian art has perhaps replaced the Djed symbol? >> � �Does Anyone have any other theories as to what the >> symbolic meaning of the Djed-pillar actually was or from >> whence the physical form of the object originated? >> George Hammond > > > [Hammond] Hello Immortalist. you are a sight for sore eyes... I presume you are posting from alt.philosophy. Your interest and sincerity in posting to this thread tells me that you have an intuitive grasp of what significant and indeed sophisticated problems actually look like. There are PhD physicists reading this who have IQs above 140 and all the forensic scientific ability in the world, and yet, when it comes to the subject of God they have no more intuition or ability than the average stumble bum on the street... a fact which I find profoundly uncanny. > > >Looks like a hard problem after poking around the web, lots of dead >ends. > [Hammond] You're right it is a hard problem. Fact is you need to know what God is in order to answer the question. Of course I'm the only one in possession of a bona fide scientific explanation of God and this explains why no one in history has ever been able to to explain the Djed Pillar up until now. The most savvy ( e.g.cogent) guess that I have run across is that it was originally a Nileometer. A sort of Plimsoll meter. I say this is a cogent idea since water is the universal symbol of psychological transcendence, and therefore anything that measures water level is de facto a sort of "psychometer"; to coin a new word. > > >Soon after its first appearance 8,000 years ago cattle cults became >widespread, leading some scholars to propose cattle were domesticated >mainly for religious purposes. > [Hammond] You've seen the evidence that the Djed existed 8000 years ago? the earliest record I could find of it was some ivory models of it found in a first dynasty grave, which would put it about 5000 years ago. > > >Calvin Schwabe: This was the largest animal, the bravest animal, the >swiftest, the most libidinous animal, and he was much admired by early >chiefs. for three thousand years the Pharaoh's principal epithet was >mighty bull. > > [Hammond] The bull has been the symbol of "strongman leadership" since the dawn of history. The struggle of man to be free has been one long struggle against the bull at the top. This is why for instance bullfighting is the national sport of Spain. the Egyptians even had a cult of the Apis sacred bull dozens of them have been found mummified and resting in a 5 ton granite coffins at Saqqara. > >Jonica Newby: Even the great pharoahs held the mighty bull in awe. >Which ultimately held the key to what, for most of this century, was >one of the greatest riddles in Egyptology. > >The mystery concerned three of most important hieroglyphics in ancient >Egypt. Although their meanings were quite quickly deciphered, no one >could work out their origin. They were: >the Ankh - symbol of life; >the Djed - symbol of stability; >And the Was - the staff held by the Pharaohs - symbol of power and >dominion. > >The clues to the mystery were everywhere, but it would take a >veterinarian working in Africa to see what the Egyptologists could >not. The eureka moment came during a routine autopsy, as Professor >Calvin Schwabe sliced through the back of a bulls spine. > >Calvin Schwabe: So I exposed against the red of the muscle, muscles of >the animal, the white thoracic vertebra and just entered my head, >that's the Ankh. > >Jonica Newby: He realised he had the answer to the Pharaohs' ancient >riddle. The thoracic vertebra was the source of the Ankh. The base of >the spine, the sacrum, was the source of the Djed. > >Image: Calvin ScwabeBut what about the Was? There aren't any bones >that look like that. Which part of the anatomy could it be? The >solution took a lesson in ancient Egyptian biology. > >The Egyptians believed that semen was formed in the spinal fluid, if >you understand that, the rest makes sense. So the essence of life >starts here in the Ankh - it flows down through the vertebral canal, >past the strong base of the spine (the Djed), and out through the >penis, the Was - symbol of power. > >Schwabe:Here's a dried bull's penis. Now this is a domestic bull. It's >about a meter long. This was carried as a staff by the gods and also >by the Pharoah. You can dry it so it's absolutely straight. Here is a >bull calf, just to get one that's a reasonable size, and this is dried >straight and is dried in this same position so you can make a Was very >easily. > >Jonica Newby: The power of cattle went well beyond the merely >symbolic. But before it could be harnessed, there were two small >problem to overcome. > >If you think this looks like a lot of bull, you should have seen its >ancestor, the mighty auroch. It was much taller, its horns were a >metre long - and it could use them. The real key to harnessing the >power of this ancient monster was back here. It's what you don't see >that matters. It took the invention of castration - removing the much- >admired libido - that was the key to making the beast tractable. > >Once in traction, cattle drove the emerging economies of the ancient >world. Humanity had an energy source greater than our own muscles. >Simple digging stick agriculture was replaced by intensive >cultivation. > >And with the wealth generated by large scale farming, for the first >time people could specialise. They could become writers, painters and >politicians. They could create civilisation. > >Jared Diamond: With agriculture, we developed political organisation, >we developed the ability to feed specialists, including people who'd >invent metal tools and writing and printing presses. We develop the >needs for tax-collectors and we developed organized religion. All of >that came after the rise of farming. > >http://www.abc.net.au/animals/program2/transcript2.htm > >How did they build the pyramids? ...the use of the wind to lift and >move large stones... > > [Hammond] All of that explanation of the Djed pillar in terms of the backbone of any animal is nothing but a second rate academic trash. I strongly recommend that you immediately distrust the discussion of any sophisticated subject by line professional academics. Not only are they ignorant, lackluster and vicious, but they are actually counterproductive and will deliberately attempt to stifle sophisticated discussion or investigation Out of simple envy. The Djed pillar is a sophisticated symbol of divinity involving a powerful psychological symbol. That's symbol is universal in history and process in society today. It is the reason why people become fascinated with "Venetian blinds" for instance, or why the "Plimsoll Mark" on a ship rivets ones attention. Or why clapboard siding on houses is so popular. a grid of horizontal lines immediately suggests a horizontal scale in which the top line denotes the highest level in the lower lines denote the lower classes. In psychological terms, the higher classes are known to have greater perception of the lower classes, and it is known that within any class the level of one's perception is a measure of how close someone is to God. Hence, we have the true psychological origin of the Djed pillar. The truth about the Djed pillar, is that it is a naked symbol of the central power of God. Perhaps the only symbol in the Christian era that approaches it, is the "Halo" painted as a gold circle above the heads of divine personages by classical painters. The Djed pillar is a more literal representation of what is being referenced by the rendering of a Halo over someone's head. > > >According to Wallis Budge, ................ .............................. the yearly ceremony of 'Raising the Djed Pillar' took place ................ > > [Hammond] The fact that there was a ceremony in which the Pharaoh himself physically raised and erected the Djed pillar is a clue to its psychological meaning. The head of state has always been considered the "defender of the faith" and the first duty of the head of state as such is to nurture and tend to the spiritual health of the nation. Since the Djed pillar is literally the "symbol of God" or of gods active power, it was thought appropriate for the Pharaoh to get out in public and are racked the Djed pillar once every year. > > > >Mythologically, the 'Raising of the Djed' symbolised the resurrection >of Osiris, > [Hammond] You have to remember that the rise of the Osiris cult only dates from the New Kingdom and the move of the central government up river from Heliopolis to Thebes.. Osiris was virtually unknown in the Old Kingdom, and yet we have carved ivory Djed pillars dating from the first dynasty. Therefore we know that the Djed pillar predates Osiris by more than 1000 years. It appears that the Osiris cult merely "adopted" the already universal symbol of the Djed pillar and appropriated it to the legend of Osiris. since the Djed pillar was the symbol of God, Osiris simply became the personification of God, much as perhaps Jesus of Nazareth became the personification of God in the New Testament. > > > [Hammond] At any rate, as you know I am currently investigating the theory of life after death. and as you also may know, it was the EGYPTIANS who were the absolute first in history to advance the theory of life after death. It was the EGYPTIANS who either discovered or invented the theory in the first place. So, in my investigations of one where and how the Egyptians first happened on the idea of life after death, I have come across the mystery of the Djed pillar. From the existence of this symbol I am clearly told by the facts of history that the Egyptians clearly understood the psychological action of God on the human mind... and this is exactly and precisely what the Djed Pilar represents. in short, they knew for a fact that there was such a thing as perceptual transcendence and development, that people could see it and discover it, and this was symbolized by the Djed pillar. Incidentally, they also knew about the "quadrature" of human personality structure which is today portrayed by the cross of Christianity, but in their date was portrayed by the Ankh ( the Egyptian cross) As for the "Was", I am not at all convinced of the academic argument that this was a secptre. In my opinion it was in fact a PRUNING HOOK, and belongs in the same category as the crook and the flail which the pharaoh always carried across his chest. The pruning hook was a symbol of the discretionary power of the pharaoh to "weed the garden" of humanity whatever he thought it necessary. How the hell those academics ever came to the conclusion that it was a scepter is beyond me. Many original tomb paintings show that the thing was over 5 feet long for Christ sakes. Before town was obviously used to pick fruit from the trees in the Delta, while the two blades on the end were obviously used for pruning branches. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: George Hammond on 25 Jul 2010 02:02
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:30:51 -0400, George Hammond <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote: >On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT), Immortalist ><reanimater_2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Jul 23, 8:01�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >>> � � � � ____ >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> ========= >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> ========= >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> ========= >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> � � � � | � � �| >>> � � � �/ � � � �\ >>> � � � / � � � � �\ >>> � � � ===== >>> >>> THE DJED-PILLAR >>> >> >>According to Wallis Budge, ................ >............................. >the yearly ceremony of 'Raising the Djed Pillar' took place >............... >> >> [Hammond] PS: A photo of a famous bas-relief of the Pharaoh physically erecting the Djed-pillar carved in the Temple of Seti I at Abdyos can be seen by scrolling down a few inches on this web-page: http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/symbols/djed-pillar.htm ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================= |