From: Art on
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT), "Sue..."
<suzysewnshow(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>When you can sit in the rear of an aeroplane and
>measure its speed by aiming a police radar at
>the forward bulkhead, then you have detected
>the "Luminiferous ether"

I suppose the radar reads zero since it resides on the
same inertial frame as the aeroplane. I wonder what
kind of sensitivity the radar must have for scientific
purposes here (attempting to detect the alleged ether).
I recall from many years back that at 40 mhz (40 X
10^6 hz) the old police radars gave a doppler effect
signal of 7 hz per mile per hour. Thus, a vehicle traveling
at 50 mph would give a doppler signal of 7 X 50 = 350
hz.

Do you (or anyone else) know if such doppler radars
on aeroplanes tests have been done? As a electronic
engineer, the idea struck me as very interesting.

Art


From: Sue... on
On Mar 27, 6:41 pm, Art <n...(a)zilch.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT), "Sue..."
>
> <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >When you can sit in the rear of an aeroplane and
> >measure its speed by aiming a police radar at
> >the forward bulkhead, then you have detected
> >the "Luminiferous ether"
>
> I suppose the radar reads zero since it resides on the
> same inertial frame as the aeroplane. I wonder what
> kind of sensitivity the radar must have for scientific
> purposes here (attempting to detect the alleged ether).
> I recall from many years back that at 40 mhz (40 X
> 10^6 hz) the old police radars gave a doppler effect
> signal of 7 hz per mile per hour. Thus, a vehicle traveling
> at 50 mph would give a doppler signal of 7 X 50 = 350
> hz.

For the EM path I described vector sums would be
used to include the third moving component, the
expected "Luminiferous ether".



>
> Do you (or anyone else) know if such doppler radars
> on aeroplanes tests have been done? As a electronic
> engineer, the idea struck me as very interesting.


That example is crude. The capability of Michelson–Morley
apparatus so greatly exceeded what would be required to
detect the "expected" ether-wind that it is
really a moot point. All kinds of communication and
navigation devices that we take for granted would
be malfunctioning rignt now if through some experimental
error the signal was missed by the MMX.

The experiment has been repeated many times. A
few notable examples about mid-page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment

Sue...

>
> Art

From: BURT on
On Mar 27, 4:58 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 6:41 pm, Art <n...(a)zilch.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT), "Sue..."
>
> > <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > >When you can sit in the rear of an aeroplane and
> > >measure its speed by aiming a police radar at
> > >the forward bulkhead, then you have detected
> > >the "Luminiferous ether"
>
> > I suppose the radar reads zero since it resides on the
> > same inertial frame as the aeroplane. I wonder what
> > kind of sensitivity the radar must have for scientific
> > purposes here (attempting to detect the alleged ether).
> > I recall from many years back that at 40 mhz (40 X
> > 10^6 hz) the old police radars gave a doppler effect
> > signal of 7 hz per mile per hour. Thus, a vehicle traveling
> > at 50 mph would give a doppler signal of 7 X 50 = 350
> > hz.
>
> For the EM path I described vector sums would be
> used to include the third moving component, the
> expected "Luminiferous ether".
>
>
>
> > Do you (or anyone else) know if such doppler radars
> > on aeroplanes tests have been done? As a electronic
> > engineer, the idea struck me as very interesting.
>
> That example is crude. The capability of Michelson–Morley
> apparatus so greatly exceeded what would be required  to
> detect the "expected" ether-wind that it is
> really a moot point. All kinds of communication and
> navigation devices that we take for granted would
> be malfunctioning rignt now if through some experimental
> error the signal was missed by the MMX.
>
> The experiment has been repeated many times.  A
> few notable examples about mid-page:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment
>
> Sue...
>
>
>
>
>
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Creation of acceleration is the beginning of motion. And its end speed
can be calculated by measuring the fluctuating weight of a test mass.
Motion is detectable at its onset and its end.

Mitch Raemsch
From: tom on
On 3/27/2010 5:41 PM, Art wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:40:44 -0700 (PDT), "Sue..."
> <suzysewnshow(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> When you can sit in the rear of an aeroplane and
>> measure its speed by aiming a police radar at
>> the forward bulkhead, then you have detected
>> the "Luminiferous ether"
>
> I suppose the radar reads zero since it resides on the
> same inertial frame as the aeroplane. I wonder what
> kind of sensitivity the radar must have for scientific
> purposes here (attempting to detect the alleged ether).
> I recall from many years back that at 40 mhz (40 X
> 10^6 hz) the old police radars gave a doppler effect
> signal of 7 hz per mile per hour. Thus, a vehicle traveling
> at 50 mph would give a doppler signal of 7 X 50 = 350
> hz.
>
> Do you (or anyone else) know if such doppler radars
> on aeroplanes tests have been done? As a electronic
> engineer, the idea struck me as very interesting.
>
> Art
>
>

"Electronic Engineer"? Since when did this type arise?

As an "Electrical Engineer" with a major in microprocessor based design
and RF design methinks your aren't anything at all.

tom