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From: Giovanni Dicanio on 21 May 2010 03:55
"Joseph M. Newcomer" <newcomer(a)flounder.com> wrote:

> See my takeoff on Dr. Seuss's "If I ran the Zoo", called "If I wrote a
> view",
>
> http://www.flounder.com/mcgrews_view.htm

Joe: congrats, this is fantastic! :)
I loved it!
This was "killing" me :)


BTW: Just a simple adjustment, if you mind:

You wrote:

<dynamic_cast> never quite catches them all,
So we get an ASSERT trap at each function call.

But dynamic_cast<> throws a std::bad_alloc exception as a result of a failed
cast, so I would update the sentence like this:

dynamic_cast<> never quite catches them all,
So we get a std::bad_cast at each function call.

[I noted that some people pronounce "std" like "stood".]


Thanks for sharing with us such a fun and creative poem!

Giovanni




From: Michael Fosmire [MSFT] on 21 May 2010 10:36
I have made the recommendation that we change the atl newsgroup to forum
suggestion based on your feedback.

If you have other suggestions, we're very open. Just email
nntp(a)microsoft.com.

-mike

"Liviu" <lab2k1(a)gmail.c0m> wrote in message
news:ewBnSsK#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Michael Fosmire [MSFT]" <mikefos(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote...
>>
>> This looks like a very obvious clerical error. I'll talk to the
>> cleric in charge and get this fixed.
>
> While at it, you may want to have the "cleric" fix it for the
> microsoft.public.vc.atl group, too, where the latest pointer
> (from just after you posted the message above) is...
>
> || Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
> || [...] We recommend that you start with
> || http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories
>
> ...a generic listing-of-all web forums. It should rather be the same one
> repeatedly mentioned here, most recently by Giovanni two posts above.
>
>>> I think this should be the right place:
>>>
>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcmfcatl/threads
>
> There are more dubious choices of "recommended redirection" for
> .win32.programmer.ole, .win2000.cmdprompt.admin to name a couple
> which I happened to look at. Doesn't MS care to plan such massive
> migration in advance at all?
>
> While I reckon that most of the regulars here must have already made
> up their minds about going - or not - to the closed web forums, so these
> missteps may well be inconsequential in some sense, yet the last
> impression left by MS before shutting down their nntp server will have
> been of utter unprofessional incoordination.
>
> Liviu
>
>
From: Peter Olcott on 21 May 2010 11:13
On 5/21/2010 9:36 AM, Michael Fosmire [MSFT] wrote:
> I have made the recommendation that we change the atl newsgroup to forum
> suggestion based on your feedback.
>
> If you have other suggestions, we're very open. Just email
> nntp(a)microsoft.com.

Don't go through with dropping the newsgroups. This is idea that is as
bad as New Coke.

>
> -mike
>
> "Liviu" <lab2k1(a)gmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:ewBnSsK#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Michael Fosmire [MSFT]" <mikefos(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote...
>>>
>>> This looks like a very obvious clerical error. I'll talk to the
>>> cleric in charge and get this fixed.
>>
>> While at it, you may want to have the "cleric" fix it for the
>> microsoft.public.vc.atl group, too, where the latest pointer
>> (from just after you posted the message above) is...
>>
>> || Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
>> || [...] We recommend that you start with
>> || http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories
>>
>> ...a generic listing-of-all web forums. It should rather be the same one
>> repeatedly mentioned here, most recently by Giovanni two posts above.
>>
>>>> I think this should be the right place:
>>>>
>>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcmfcatl/threads
>>
>> There are more dubious choices of "recommended redirection" for
>> .win32.programmer.ole, .win2000.cmdprompt.admin to name a couple
>> which I happened to look at. Doesn't MS care to plan such massive
>> migration in advance at all?
>>
>> While I reckon that most of the regulars here must have already made
>> up their minds about going - or not - to the closed web forums, so these
>> missteps may well be inconsequential in some sense, yet the last
>> impression left by MS before shutting down their nntp server will have
>> been of utter unprofessional incoordination.
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>>

From: Peter Olcott on 21 May 2010 11:15
On 5/21/2010 9:36 AM, Michael Fosmire [MSFT] wrote:
> I have made the recommendation that we change the atl newsgroup to forum
> suggestion based on your feedback.
>
> If you have other suggestions, we're very open. Just email
> nntp(a)microsoft.com.

The idea of dropping the newsgroups is yet another reason for developers
to quit supporting the Microsoft platform.

>
> -mike
>
> "Liviu" <lab2k1(a)gmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:ewBnSsK#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Michael Fosmire [MSFT]" <mikefos(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote...
>>>
>>> This looks like a very obvious clerical error. I'll talk to the
>>> cleric in charge and get this fixed.
>>
>> While at it, you may want to have the "cleric" fix it for the
>> microsoft.public.vc.atl group, too, where the latest pointer
>> (from just after you posted the message above) is...
>>
>> || Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
>> || [...] We recommend that you start with
>> || http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories
>>
>> ...a generic listing-of-all web forums. It should rather be the same one
>> repeatedly mentioned here, most recently by Giovanni two posts above.
>>
>>>> I think this should be the right place:
>>>>
>>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcmfcatl/threads
>>
>> There are more dubious choices of "recommended redirection" for
>> .win32.programmer.ole, .win2000.cmdprompt.admin to name a couple
>> which I happened to look at. Doesn't MS care to plan such massive
>> migration in advance at all?
>>
>> While I reckon that most of the regulars here must have already made
>> up their minds about going - or not - to the closed web forums, so these
>> missteps may well be inconsequential in some sense, yet the last
>> impression left by MS before shutting down their nntp server will have
>> been of utter unprofessional incoordination.
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>>

From: Hector Santos on 21 May 2010 12:41
What might be useful to people in their own migration plans is to
provide an a list of the first to be turned off and possible the time
order of the expected turn offs.

Like for example if you indicated this MFC group was scheduled to die
June 1, you will find many more people rushing to figure out what they
need to do more urgently.


Michael Fosmire [MSFT] wrote:

> I have made the recommendation that we change the atl newsgroup to forum
> suggestion based on your feedback.
>
> If you have other suggestions, we're very open. Just email
> nntp(a)microsoft.com.
>
> -mike
>
> "Liviu" <lab2k1(a)gmail.c0m> wrote in message
> news:ewBnSsK#KHA.4768(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "Michael Fosmire [MSFT]" <mikefos(a)online.microsoft.com> wrote...
>>>
>>> This looks like a very obvious clerical error. I'll talk to the
>>> cleric in charge and get this fixed.
>>
>> While at it, you may want to have the "cleric" fix it for the
>> microsoft.public.vc.atl group, too, where the latest pointer
>> (from just after you posted the message above) is...
>>
>> || Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
>> || [...] We recommend that you start with
>> || http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories
>>
>> ...a generic listing-of-all web forums. It should rather be the same one
>> repeatedly mentioned here, most recently by Giovanni two posts above.
>>
>>>> I think this should be the right place:
>>>>
>>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vcmfcatl/threads
>>
>> There are more dubious choices of "recommended redirection" for
>> .win32.programmer.ole, .win2000.cmdprompt.admin to name a couple
>> which I happened to look at. Doesn't MS care to plan such massive
>> migration in advance at all?
>>
>> While I reckon that most of the regulars here must have already made
>> up their minds about going - or not - to the closed web forums, so these
>> missteps may well be inconsequential in some sense, yet the last
>> impression left by MS before shutting down their nntp server will have
>> been of utter unprofessional incoordination.
>>
>> Liviu
>>
>>

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