From: nntp on

What is Happening?
This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.

Why?
As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding
solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This
move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier
for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and
make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a
healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will
begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
and discontinue support for newsgroups.

In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader
functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the
NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/

Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach,
starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
active ones throughout the course of the next six months.


Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you to participate at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vssmartdevicesnative/threads forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.

Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx

Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
NNTP(a)microsoft.com
From: David Scambler on
nntp(a)microsoft.com wrote in news:e8JJZV69KHA.5716(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vssmartdevicesnative/thre
> ads

And there it is. Positive proof of Microsoft's ignorance of the needs of
users of this group.
Why on earth do they assume I would want to consult a smart devices forum?
How will that enhance and improve my experience?
Was the post automatically generated by an idiotic bing search for the term
"mfc"?
From: Liviu on
<nntp(a)microsoft.com> wrote...
>
> Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
> All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1,
> 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups
> in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups
> and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course
> of the next six months.

Not that it matters, I know, but just curious about the math...
This .mfc group has more traffic than the .windbg one, yet it's slated
to close first, while the other one will last until September. Odd.

Liviu

P.S. No slight or disrespect intended for .windbg, on the contrary, I'd
like to see it (and all others) continue to hold their well-earned own.


From: Goran on
On May 20, 8:06 am, "Liviu" <lab...(a)gmail.c0m> wrote:
> <n...(a)microsoft.com> wrote...
>
> > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
> > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1,
> > 2010 and October 1, 2010.  Microsoft will be closing newsgroups
> > in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups
> > and moving eventually to  more active ones throughout the course
> > of the next six months.
>
> Not that it matters, I know, but just curious about the math...
> This .mfc group has more traffic than the .windbg one, yet it's slated
> to close first, while the other one will last until September. Odd.

ABCD...M...W..., I guess... :-)

Goran
From: Joseph M. Newcomer on
The decision is poorly thought out and community-hostile. But what can you expect from a
company that would release products like VS.NET (with its user-hostile IDE) and Office
2007 (with the worst user interface of any product in history).
joe

On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:48:05 -0700, nntp(a)microsoft.com wrote:

>
>What is Happening?
>This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing
>newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums.
>
>Why?
>As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the
>traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the
>past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding
>solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This
>move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier
>for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and
>make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through
>improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam
>management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a
>healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will
>begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology
>and discontinue support for newsgroups.
>
>In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those
>users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the
>newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge
>which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the
>forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader
>functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the
>NNTP Bridge here: http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/
>
>Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown?
>All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and
>October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach,
>starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more
>active ones throughout the course of the next six months.
>
>
>Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup?
>In an effort to enhance and improve your experience, this newsgroup is scheduled for closure in the upcoming months and we would like to invite you to participate at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vssmartdevicesnative/threads forum(s). An exact date will be posted in advance as plans are finalized.
>
>Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Forums, please go to
>http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx
>
>Who Should I Contact with any Questions?
>Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to
>NNTP(a)microsoft.com
Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
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