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From: Cliff on 21 Jun 2010 04:28 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:10:28 -0400, "Existential Angst" <UNfitcat(a)UNoptonline.net> wrote: >Let me guess, Cliff: You don't LIKE rice, right?? Rice fine, just not a complete source of amino acids. -- Cliff
From: Cliff on 22 Jun 2010 06:57 On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:21:37 -0400, "Existential Angst" <UNfitcat(a)UNoptonline.net> wrote: >I meant to say, that soybean's PQ numbers seem artificially high these days, >perhaps from the Monsanto Influence. >I remember the numbers for soybeans being very unimpressive, just don't >remember how low. > >These numbers could have changed, as well, from genetically modified beans, >as well as Monsanto's tinkering with the USDA database. Look to research on new rice varieties too. See also "Golden Rice", etc. http://www.goldenrice.org/Content5-GCGH/GCGH1.html "The Chinese University of Hong Kong will undertake work to enhance the protein quality/lysine content of rice." http://www.grandchallenges.org/ImproveNutrition/Challenges/NutrientRichPlants/Pages/Rice.aspx "Improve protein quality and content, particularly with regard to lysine" -- Cliff
From: Cliff on 23 Jun 2010 05:03 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:12:19 -0400, "Existential Angst" <UNfitcat(a)UNoptonline.net> wrote: >So yeah, lysine IS the limiting amino acid (followed closely by methionine), >but it's not a BIG limiting amino acid. > >Compare this to soybeans (at least 1985 soybeans). >They have 5x the protein of rice, but the limiting amino acid of soybeans is >methionine, to the tune of 70%. So soybeans are a lower quality than rice! Define "quality". You were advocating a 100% rice diet (plus vitamins I assume), not soybeans. Had you been advocating 100% soybeans .... <G>. Or eggs ... -- Cliff
From: Cliff on 23 Jun 2010 05:07 On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:12:19 -0400, "Existential Angst" <UNfitcat(a)UNoptonline.net> wrote: >The "problem" with rice is the protein *density*, altho as I state earlier, >this may not actually be a problem, as we are likely way way way >over-proteinized in our diets to begin with. >Soy and eggs, meat have 5-7 times the protein *density* of rice (per >calorie), but qualities that are all on par. A decent human diet requires more than just protiens IIRC. Perhaps the carbs in rice or soybeans comes in handy too. BTW, IIRC soybeans are a tad toxic unless cooked/heated. We had an extruder. http://www.feedmachinery.com/glossary/extruder.php -- Cliff
From: Cliff on 23 Jun 2010 05:11
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:12:19 -0400, "Existential Angst" <UNfitcat(a)UNoptonline.net> wrote: >Your comments on BV have no meaning. >What majorly affects usability of a protein IS the completeness, What if is is lacking a much needed amino acid? Pretty good for a 100% diet, is is it? IMHO a 90% "complete" protein would kill you in the end if that was your only protein source. Know of anybody that ever proved otherwise? And lived? -- Cliff |