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From: Jaredean on 25 Feb 2010 11:49
Excellent! So, i'm just now setting up the server and would like to
get the correct cable...do you mind pointing me in the right direction
cable wise? this place is right up the street from me and has a lot
of cables, etc...

http://sewelldirect.com/

thanks!

jared

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:40:31 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
<LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>On 2/25/2010 8:35 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>> So, you have an eSATA working in Hot Swap mode so you can remove a
>> drive and swap it with a new one each day? That is my biggest concern
>> - Leonid mentioned it is seen as an internal drive, but an internal
>> drive doesn't show up with the "eject drive" option...
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:29:16 -0500, Leythos<spam999free(a)rrohio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In article<vcebo5lce2ge74l055d7en6r3spb9e8qqu(a)4ax.com>,
>>> shop(a)prolook.com says...
>>>>
>>>> I am prepping a Dell T610 and want to add in an eSATA card so i can
>>>> use 1 TB eSATA drives as backup...does anyone have experience using
>>>> eSATA w/SBS or the T610? I don't really know what card would work
>>>> best or what i'm in for in terms of getting it working, at least so it
>>>> is Hot Swapable...
>>>>
>>>> jared
>>>
>>> I have esata on SBS03 servers, if the drives are connected when the
>>> server reboots, the server will hang with OS not found - I believe this
>>> is a BIOS issue, since the drives are changed daily, if they are not the
>>> same drive as when the server was booted they see them as new drives and
>>> try to boot from them.
>>>
>>> I just installed a T610 with SBS and 1.5TB of disk space, using "USB"
>>> external Seagate 1.5GB drives, takes about 1.5 hours for first backup
>>> then 20 minutes for each backup after that - we do 6 backups per day.
>>>
>>> You don't need eSata performance in SBS 08 like you did in 03.
>Works fine.
>
>Hot swap technology is part of SATA spec, by the way. eSata cards have a
>registry flag to enable the "disconnect this device" interface. Internal
>SATA controllers do not. That's the only difference between the two. You
>can use an eSata drive with an internal controller if you have the
>appropriate SATA to eSata cable. I work with lots of SATA drives due to
>my data recovery business.
From: Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert on 25 Feb 2010 11:56
On 2/25/2010 8:49 AM, Jaredean wrote:
> Excellent! So, i'm just now setting up the server and would like to
> get the correct cable...do you mind pointing me in the right direction
> cable wise? this place is right up the street from me and has a lot
> of cables, etc...
>
> http://sewelldirect.com/
>
> thanks!
>
> jared
>
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:40:31 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
> <LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/25/2010 8:35 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>>> So, you have an eSATA working in Hot Swap mode so you can remove a
>>> drive and swap it with a new one each day? That is my biggest concern
>>> - Leonid mentioned it is seen as an internal drive, but an internal
>>> drive doesn't show up with the "eject drive" option...
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:29:16 -0500, Leythos<spam999free(a)rrohio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article<vcebo5lce2ge74l055d7en6r3spb9e8qqu(a)4ax.com>,
>>>> shop(a)prolook.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am prepping a Dell T610 and want to add in an eSATA card so i can
>>>>> use 1 TB eSATA drives as backup...does anyone have experience using
>>>>> eSATA w/SBS or the T610? I don't really know what card would work
>>>>> best or what i'm in for in terms of getting it working, at least so it
>>>>> is Hot Swapable...
>>>>>
>>>>> jared
>>>>
>>>> I have esata on SBS03 servers, if the drives are connected when the
>>>> server reboots, the server will hang with OS not found - I believe this
>>>> is a BIOS issue, since the drives are changed daily, if they are not the
>>>> same drive as when the server was booted they see them as new drives and
>>>> try to boot from them.
>>>>
>>>> I just installed a T610 with SBS and 1.5TB of disk space, using "USB"
>>>> external Seagate 1.5GB drives, takes about 1.5 hours for first backup
>>>> then 20 minutes for each backup after that - we do 6 backups per day.
>>>>
>>>> You don't need eSata performance in SBS 08 like you did in 03.
>> Works fine.
>>
>> Hot swap technology is part of SATA spec, by the way. eSata cards have a
>> registry flag to enable the "disconnect this device" interface. Internal
>> SATA controllers do not. That's the only difference between the two. You
>> can use an eSata drive with an internal controller if you have the
>> appropriate SATA to eSata cable. I work with lots of SATA drives due to
>> my data recovery business.

Unless you are doing some tricks like I am, you just need a basic eSata
to eSata cable. :)
http://sewelldirect.com/2-foot-e-SATA-to-e-SATA-Black-Cable.asp - this
will work
Sorry for the confusion. I just have a really elaborate setup.
--
Leonid S. Knyshov
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Microsoft Small Business Specialist
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From: Jaredean on 25 Feb 2010 12:14
Oh, that's the thing - i don't have any sort of eSATA card on the
server or any eSATA port on the motherboard...i wanted to add
something to the server itself, which i was assuming would be an eSATA
card, but wanted to get the correct one...any suggestions on which one
would be good?

jared


On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:56:44 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
<LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>On 2/25/2010 8:49 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>> Excellent! So, i'm just now setting up the server and would like to
>> get the correct cable...do you mind pointing me in the right direction
>> cable wise? this place is right up the street from me and has a lot
>> of cables, etc...
>>
>> http://sewelldirect.com/
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:40:31 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
>> <LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/25/2010 8:35 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>>>> So, you have an eSATA working in Hot Swap mode so you can remove a
>>>> drive and swap it with a new one each day? That is my biggest concern
>>>> - Leonid mentioned it is seen as an internal drive, but an internal
>>>> drive doesn't show up with the "eject drive" option...
>>>>
>>>> jared
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:29:16 -0500, Leythos<spam999free(a)rrohio.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<vcebo5lce2ge74l055d7en6r3spb9e8qqu(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>> shop(a)prolook.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am prepping a Dell T610 and want to add in an eSATA card so i can
>>>>>> use 1 TB eSATA drives as backup...does anyone have experience using
>>>>>> eSATA w/SBS or the T610? I don't really know what card would work
>>>>>> best or what i'm in for in terms of getting it working, at least so it
>>>>>> is Hot Swapable...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jared
>>>>>
>>>>> I have esata on SBS03 servers, if the drives are connected when the
>>>>> server reboots, the server will hang with OS not found - I believe this
>>>>> is a BIOS issue, since the drives are changed daily, if they are not the
>>>>> same drive as when the server was booted they see them as new drives and
>>>>> try to boot from them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed a T610 with SBS and 1.5TB of disk space, using "USB"
>>>>> external Seagate 1.5GB drives, takes about 1.5 hours for first backup
>>>>> then 20 minutes for each backup after that - we do 6 backups per day.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't need eSata performance in SBS 08 like you did in 03.
>>> Works fine.
>>>
>>> Hot swap technology is part of SATA spec, by the way. eSata cards have a
>>> registry flag to enable the "disconnect this device" interface. Internal
>>> SATA controllers do not. That's the only difference between the two. You
>>> can use an eSata drive with an internal controller if you have the
>>> appropriate SATA to eSata cable. I work with lots of SATA drives due to
>>> my data recovery business.
>
>Unless you are doing some tricks like I am, you just need a basic eSata
>to eSata cable. :)
>http://sewelldirect.com/2-foot-e-SATA-to-e-SATA-Black-Cable.asp - this
>will work
>Sorry for the confusion. I just have a really elaborate setup.
From: Jaredean on 25 Feb 2010 13:35
sorry, i need to clairify something - i'm assuming there isn't an
eSATA port on the motherboard becuase there isn't an eSATA connection
on the back of the server...

jared

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:14:47 -0700, Jaredean <shop(a)prolook.com> wrote:

>Oh, that's the thing - i don't have any sort of eSATA card on the
>server or any eSATA port on the motherboard...i wanted to add
>something to the server itself, which i was assuming would be an eSATA
>card, but wanted to get the correct one...any suggestions on which one
>would be good?
>
>jared
>
>
>On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:56:44 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
><LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2/25/2010 8:49 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>>> Excellent! So, i'm just now setting up the server and would like to
>>> get the correct cable...do you mind pointing me in the right direction
>>> cable wise? this place is right up the street from me and has a lot
>>> of cables, etc...
>>>
>>> http://sewelldirect.com/
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:40:31 -0800, "Leonid S. Knyshov // SBS Expert"
>>> <LeonidSKnyshovSBSExpert(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/25/2010 8:35 AM, Jaredean wrote:
>>>>> So, you have an eSATA working in Hot Swap mode so you can remove a
>>>>> drive and swap it with a new one each day? That is my biggest concern
>>>>> - Leonid mentioned it is seen as an internal drive, but an internal
>>>>> drive doesn't show up with the "eject drive" option...
>>>>>
>>>>> jared
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:29:16 -0500, Leythos<spam999free(a)rrohio.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article<vcebo5lce2ge74l055d7en6r3spb9e8qqu(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>>> shop(a)prolook.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am prepping a Dell T610 and want to add in an eSATA card so i can
>>>>>>> use 1 TB eSATA drives as backup...does anyone have experience using
>>>>>>> eSATA w/SBS or the T610? I don't really know what card would work
>>>>>>> best or what i'm in for in terms of getting it working, at least so it
>>>>>>> is Hot Swapable...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have esata on SBS03 servers, if the drives are connected when the
>>>>>> server reboots, the server will hang with OS not found - I believe this
>>>>>> is a BIOS issue, since the drives are changed daily, if they are not the
>>>>>> same drive as when the server was booted they see them as new drives and
>>>>>> try to boot from them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just installed a T610 with SBS and 1.5TB of disk space, using "USB"
>>>>>> external Seagate 1.5GB drives, takes about 1.5 hours for first backup
>>>>>> then 20 minutes for each backup after that - we do 6 backups per day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't need eSata performance in SBS 08 like you did in 03.
>>>> Works fine.
>>>>
>>>> Hot swap technology is part of SATA spec, by the way. eSata cards have a
>>>> registry flag to enable the "disconnect this device" interface. Internal
>>>> SATA controllers do not. That's the only difference between the two. You
>>>> can use an eSata drive with an internal controller if you have the
>>>> appropriate SATA to eSata cable. I work with lots of SATA drives due to
>>>> my data recovery business.
>>
>>Unless you are doing some tricks like I am, you just need a basic eSata
>>to eSata cable. :)
>>http://sewelldirect.com/2-foot-e-SATA-to-e-SATA-Black-Cable.asp - this
>>will work
>>Sorry for the confusion. I just have a really elaborate setup.
From: Jaredean on 25 Feb 2010 22:46
So, anyone purchase an eSATA card and add it to a SBS 2008 setup that
can give me direction?

jared

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:45:44 -0700, Jaredean <shop(a)prolook.com> wrote:

>I am prepping a Dell T610 and want to add in an eSATA card so i can
>use 1 TB eSATA drives as backup...does anyone have experience using
>eSATA w/SBS or the T610? I don't really know what card would work
>best or what i'm in for in terms of getting it working, at least so it
>is Hot Swapable...
>
>jared
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