From: Jim on
>>Though I am using Outlook 2007 on my test PC on my test rig as opposed to
>>Outlook 2003 at the customer site..would this be relevant ?


Ahem... remember this bit from one of my earlier posts...?

...It seems that it *does* indeed make a difference !!

At the customer site I logged onto a PC with Outlook 2007 and then setup the
same user account in IMAP4 in Outlook 2007...

...and guess what...? it works just fine just like on my test rig. !!

So it would seem as if there is something up/different with sending via SMTP
to Exchange 2007 using IMAP4 from Outlook 2003....it is fully patched SP3
etc

Conversely I'll do the same test back on my test SBS2008 setup and see if
the same thing happens if I use Outlook 2003 on my test rig as opposed to
Outlook 2007...then I'll be sure of what is going on.

Well I never...back soon...

Jim.




From: Jim on
Ah ha !

Same thing happens...it *does not* work from Outlook 2003 on my test rig
either !

I guess logic should have alerted me to this earlier...

So both my customers SBS2008 server and my test SBS2008 server *will* allow
me to send mail via SMTP from an account/profile configured with IMAP...from
Outlook 2007

But they both will *not* let me send a reply via SMTP ( unable to relay )
if I use Outlook 2003 as the client !

Both versions of Outlook are setup in an identical manner though there are
small differences in the setup screens as you can appreciate.

Now....as my original reason for doing this is related to some IP telephony
software not being able to send a test message from it's IMAP setup screen,
the software vendor says we have to turn on and use SMTP
authentication...however when I do this I get the same 'unable to relay'
message that I do when I try to send a message from Outlook 2003..

This would seem to indicate that there is something in Exchange 2007 that is
only permitting SMTP connections from certain authenticated sources...and
not Outlook 2003 or my IP telephony software..even though they are trying to
authenticate..

Are there any settings in Exchange 2007 governing what client types it can
receive SMTP mail from ?

I though that somewhere when I was setting up a separate standalone Exchange
Server 2007 once upon a time it asked me what client level I wanted to
permit for use with Exchange 2007...or did I dream that ?

Is their a client compatibility setting somewhere ?

Jim.






"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:hi9ov9$1e7g$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>>Though I am using Outlook 2007 on my test PC on my test rig as opposed to
>>>Outlook 2003 at the customer site..would this be relevant ?
>
>
> Ahem... remember this bit from one of my earlier posts...?
>
> ..It seems that it *does* indeed make a difference !!
>
> At the customer site I logged onto a PC with Outlook 2007 and then setup
> the same user account in IMAP4 in Outlook 2007...
>
> ..and guess what...? it works just fine just like on my test rig. !!
>
> So it would seem as if there is something up/different with sending via
> SMTP to Exchange 2007 using IMAP4 from Outlook 2003....it is fully patched
> SP3 etc
>
> Conversely I'll do the same test back on my test SBS2008 setup and see if
> the same thing happens if I use Outlook 2003 on my test rig as opposed to
> Outlook 2007...then I'll be sure of what is going on.
>
> Well I never...back soon...
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
>
From: Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT] on
"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
news:hi9q6d$1g46$1(a)energise.enta.net...
> Ah ha !
>
> Same thing happens...it *does not* work from Outlook 2003 on my test rig
> either !
>
> I guess logic should have alerted me to this earlier...
>
> So both my customers SBS2008 server and my test SBS2008 server *will*
> allow me to send mail via SMTP from an account/profile configured with
> IMAP...from Outlook 2007
>
> But they both will *not* let me send a reply via SMTP ( unable to relay )
> if I use Outlook 2003 as the client !
>
> Both versions of Outlook are setup in an identical manner though there are
> small differences in the setup screens as you can appreciate.
>
> Now....as my original reason for doing this is related to some IP
> telephony software not being able to send a test message from it's IMAP
> setup screen, the software vendor says we have to turn on and use SMTP
> authentication...however when I do this I get the same 'unable to relay'
> message that I do when I try to send a message from Outlook 2003..
>
> This would seem to indicate that there is something in Exchange 2007 that
> is only permitting SMTP connections from certain authenticated
> sources...and not Outlook 2003 or my IP telephony software..even though
> they are trying to authenticate..
>
> Are there any settings in Exchange 2007 governing what client types it can
> receive SMTP mail from ?
>
> I though that somewhere when I was setting up a separate standalone
> Exchange Server 2007 once upon a time it asked me what client level I
> wanted to permit for use with Exchange 2007...or did I dream that ?
>
> Is their a client compatibility setting somewhere ?
>
> Jim.
>

Those settings are in the same area that I mentioned earlier. Did you go
through each section under the Server Config, Client Access?

There is also in the properties of the receive connectors which IP subnets
you are allowing to receive from.

Also, how are you providing credentials? (I asked that earlier).

Ace





From: Jim on
>>Also, how are you providing credentials? (I asked that earlier).

'Use the same settings as my incoming mailserver' and username is
specified as: domain\username


Jim.




"Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
news:OgBJ91UkKHA.2164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
> news:hi9q6d$1g46$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>> Ah ha !
>>
>> Same thing happens...it *does not* work from Outlook 2003 on my test rig
>> either !
>>
>> I guess logic should have alerted me to this earlier...
>>
>> So both my customers SBS2008 server and my test SBS2008 server *will*
>> allow me to send mail via SMTP from an account/profile configured with
>> IMAP...from Outlook 2007
>>
>> But they both will *not* let me send a reply via SMTP ( unable to relay )
>> if I use Outlook 2003 as the client !
>>
>> Both versions of Outlook are setup in an identical manner though there
>> are small differences in the setup screens as you can appreciate.
>>
>> Now....as my original reason for doing this is related to some IP
>> telephony software not being able to send a test message from it's IMAP
>> setup screen, the software vendor says we have to turn on and use SMTP
>> authentication...however when I do this I get the same 'unable to relay'
>> message that I do when I try to send a message from Outlook 2003..
>>
>> This would seem to indicate that there is something in Exchange 2007 that
>> is only permitting SMTP connections from certain authenticated
>> sources...and not Outlook 2003 or my IP telephony software..even though
>> they are trying to authenticate..
>>
>> Are there any settings in Exchange 2007 governing what client types it
>> can receive SMTP mail from ?
>>
>> I though that somewhere when I was setting up a separate standalone
>> Exchange Server 2007 once upon a time it asked me what client level I
>> wanted to permit for use with Exchange 2007...or did I dream that ?
>>
>> Is their a client compatibility setting somewhere ?
>>
>> Jim.
>>
>
> Those settings are in the same area that I mentioned earlier. Did you go
> through each section under the Server Config, Client Access?
>
> There is also in the properties of the receive connectors which IP subnets
> you are allowing to receive from.
>
> Also, how are you providing credentials? (I asked that earlier).
>
> Ace
>
>
>
>
>
From: Jim on
How about this ?
http://www.shudnow.net/2008/02/10/client-to-server-secure-smtp-connectivity-in-exchange-server-2007

How about I create a new receive connector and restrict it to only receiving
inbound connections from a specific local IP address and then removing all
authentication types and allowing anonymous access and then issuing the
cmdlet:

Get-ReceiveConnector "Receive Connector Name" | Add-ADPermission -User "NT
AUTHORITY\ANONYMOUS LOGON" -ExtendedRights
"Ms-Exch-SMTP-Accept-Any-Recipient"

This should then allow me to relay through this connector *only* from the IP
address specified and from any older SMTP client ie Outlook 2003 and also my
telephone IP software PBX.

OK, I've tried this and it does seem to work !

OK, I can see my telephone software IP PBX not being up to date enough to
work with Excghange 2007, but for the life of me I cannot see why I'm
getting these issues with Outlook 2003..
As I said earlier Outlook 2007 seems to work without a hitch....why not
Outlook 2003 ?

As it is their was no other previous receive connectors specifically for
'Client' access, all their was were the default three:

Default 'SERVERNAME'
Windows SBS Fax Sharepoint Receive 'SERVERNAME'
Windows SBS Internet Receive 'SERVERNAME'

So do you think I'm OK to implement the solution above at the customer site
so long as I am very careful to only include the local IP address of the
Telephone software IP PBX server whose voicemail function requires IMAP/SMTP
to send receive voicemail messages.

Jim.





"Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
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>>>Also, how are you providing credentials? (I asked that earlier).
>
> 'Use the same settings as my incoming mailserver' and username is
> specified as: domain\username
>
>
> Jim.
>
>
>
>
> "Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]" <aceman(a)mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in
> message news:OgBJ91UkKHA.2164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Jim" <jim(a)dontwantspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:hi9q6d$1g46$1(a)energise.enta.net...
>>> Ah ha !
>>>
>>> Same thing happens...it *does not* work from Outlook 2003 on my test
>>> rig either !
>>>
>>> I guess logic should have alerted me to this earlier...
>>>
>>> So both my customers SBS2008 server and my test SBS2008 server *will*
>>> allow me to send mail via SMTP from an account/profile configured with
>>> IMAP...from Outlook 2007
>>>
>>> But they both will *not* let me send a reply via SMTP ( unable to
>>> relay ) if I use Outlook 2003 as the client !
>>>
>>> Both versions of Outlook are setup in an identical manner though there
>>> are small differences in the setup screens as you can appreciate.
>>>
>>> Now....as my original reason for doing this is related to some IP
>>> telephony software not being able to send a test message from it's IMAP
>>> setup screen, the software vendor says we have to turn on and use SMTP
>>> authentication...however when I do this I get the same 'unable to relay'
>>> message that I do when I try to send a message from Outlook 2003..
>>>
>>> This would seem to indicate that there is something in Exchange 2007
>>> that is only permitting SMTP connections from certain authenticated
>>> sources...and not Outlook 2003 or my IP telephony software..even though
>>> they are trying to authenticate..
>>>
>>> Are there any settings in Exchange 2007 governing what client types it
>>> can receive SMTP mail from ?
>>>
>>> I though that somewhere when I was setting up a separate standalone
>>> Exchange Server 2007 once upon a time it asked me what client level I
>>> wanted to permit for use with Exchange 2007...or did I dream that ?
>>>
>>> Is their a client compatibility setting somewhere ?
>>>
>>> Jim.
>>>
>>
>> Those settings are in the same area that I mentioned earlier. Did you go
>> through each section under the Server Config, Client Access?
>>
>> There is also in the properties of the receive connectors which IP
>> subnets you are allowing to receive from.
>>
>> Also, how are you providing credentials? (I asked that earlier).
>>
>> Ace
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>