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From: BURT on 27 Jul 2010 18:46 On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 10:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 24, 11:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:56 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:50 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:19 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is a physical reason why clocks in relative motion are running > > > > > > > > > at different rates. SR failed to provide that reason. > > > > > > > > > I just told you the physical reason. > > > > > > > > I gather that you still don't understand the reason. > > > > > > > > In such events, your proper response would be, "I still don't > > > > > > > > understand the reason. How does the hyperbolic geometry of spacetime > > > > > > > > cause relatively moving clocks to have different rates?" And they we > > > > > > > > could discuss the reason in more detail. > > > > > > > > 'Hyperbolic geometry'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry > > > > > > > > "In mathematics, hyperbolic geometry (also called Lobachevskian > > > > > > > geometry or Bolyai-Lobachevskian geometry) is a non-Euclidean > > > > > > > geometry, meaning that the parallel postulate of Euclidean geometry is > > > > > > > replaced." > > > > > > > > 'Mathematics'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics > > > > > > > > 'Albert Einstein, on the other hand, stated that "as far as the laws > > > > > > > of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as > > > > > > > they are certain, they do not refer to reality."' > > > > > Calculus in the abstract realm is exact with zero point derivatives. But real world curves would require infinite calculations to become exact for the infinitely small point derivatives. John Nash has pointed this out that what I am saying is true. It means calculus is only exact for the abstract world of math but not for the math of calculating in the real world. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 27 Jul 2010 18:48 On Jul 27, 6:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 27, 10:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 26, 5:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 24, 11:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:56 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:50 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:19 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There is a physical reason why clocks in relative motion are running > > > > > > > > > > at different rates. SR failed to provide that reason. > > > > > > > > > > I just told you the physical reason. > > > > > > > > > I gather that you still don't understand the reason. > > > > > > > > > In such events, your proper response would be, "I still don't > > > > > > > > > understand the reason. How does the hyperbolic geometry of spacetime > > > > > > > > > cause relatively moving clocks to have different rates?" And they we > > > > > > > > > could discuss the reason in more detail. > > > > > > > > > 'Hyperbolic geometry'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry > > > > > > > > > "In mathematics, hyperbolic geometry (also called Lobachevskian > > > > > > > > geometry or Bolyai-Lobachevskian geometry) is a non-Euclidean > > > > > > > > geometry, meaning that the parallel postulate of Euclidean geometry is > > > > > > > > replaced." > > > > > > > > > 'Mathematics'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics > > > > > > > > > 'Albert Einstein, on the other hand, stated that "as far as the laws > > > > > > > > of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as > > > > > > > > they are certain, they do not refer to reality."' > > Calculus in the abstract realm is exact with zero point derivatives. > But real world curves would require infinite calculations to become > exact for the infinitely small point derivatives. John Nash has > pointed this out that what I am saying is true. > > It means calculus is only exact for the abstract world of math but not > for the math of calculating in the real world. > > Mitch Raemsch Answer the following: 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water." Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then were does the dark matter end and is where the dark matter ends the beginning of a void and if not a void then what are the properties space has where there is no dark matter and how do these properties distinguish this region of space from dark matter? If so then that is evidence dark matter exists from the point of the galaxy cluster collision to the Earth. Dark matter exists between the Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. The ripple will reach the Earth. The ripple propagates through the dark matter which exists between the Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. Dark matter is the medium in which the ripple propagates. Dark matter is the medium in which light waves propagate. The ripple is a gravity wave. The ripple is displaced dark matter. Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause spacetime to curve but not move. Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows a C-60 molecule to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without losing momentum. Explain what occurs physically in nature when mass converts to energy. Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows the future to determine the past. Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity. Dark Matter Displacement explains what occurs physically in nature in all of the above. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Displaced dark matter exerts pressure towards the matter. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. Physical effects caused by matter converting to dark matter is energy. Mass is conserved. The future does not determine the past in the physics of nature. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
From: BURT on 27 Jul 2010 18:54 On Jul 27, 3:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 6:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 27, 10:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 11:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:56 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:50 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:19 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a physical reason why clocks in relative motion are running > > > > > > > > > > > at different rates. SR failed to provide that reason. > > > > > > > > > > > I just told you the physical reason. > > > > > > > > > > I gather that you still don't understand the reason. > > > > > > > > > > In such events, your proper response would be, "I still don't > > > > > > > > > > understand the reason. How does the hyperbolic geometry of spacetime > > > > > > > > > > cause relatively moving clocks to have different rates?" And they we > > > > > > > > > > could discuss the reason in more detail. > > > > > > > > > > 'Hyperbolic geometry'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry > > > > > > > > > > "In mathematics, hyperbolic geometry (also called Lobachevskian > > > > > > > > > geometry or Bolyai-Lobachevskian geometry) is a non-Euclidean > > > > > > > > > geometry, meaning that the parallel postulate of Euclidean geometry is > > > > > > > > > replaced." > > > > > > > > > > 'Mathematics'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics > > > > > > > > > > 'Albert Einstein, on the other hand, stated that "as far as the laws > > > > > > > > > of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as > > > > > > > > > they are certain, they do not refer to reality."' > > > Calculus in the abstract realm is exact with zero point derivatives. > > But real world curves would require infinite calculations to become > > exact for the infinitely small point derivatives. John Nash has > > pointed this out that what I am saying is true. > > > It means calculus is only exact for the abstract world of math but not > > for the math of calculating in the real world. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Answer the following: Dark matter soup would slow down anything moving through it. This clearly is not happening. There is a better explanation to fast orbiting outer galactic stars than a dark matter which cannot exist. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 27 Jul 2010 19:11 On Jul 27, 6:54 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 3:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 27, 6:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 27, 10:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 11:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:56 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:50 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:19 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a physical reason why clocks in relative motion are running > > > > > > > > > > > > at different rates. SR failed to provide that reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just told you the physical reason. > > > > > > > > > > > I gather that you still don't understand the reason. > > > > > > > > > > > In such events, your proper response would be, "I still don't > > > > > > > > > > > understand the reason. How does the hyperbolic geometry of spacetime > > > > > > > > > > > cause relatively moving clocks to have different rates?" And they we > > > > > > > > > > > could discuss the reason in more detail. > > > > > > > > > > > 'Hyperbolic geometry'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry > > > > > > > > > > > "In mathematics, hyperbolic geometry (also called Lobachevskian > > > > > > > > > > geometry or Bolyai-Lobachevskian geometry) is a non-Euclidean > > > > > > > > > > geometry, meaning that the parallel postulate of Euclidean geometry is > > > > > > > > > > replaced." > > > > > > > > > > > 'Mathematics'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics > > > > > > > > > > > 'Albert Einstein, on the other hand, stated that "as far as the laws > > > > > > > > > > of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as > > > > > > > > > > they are certain, they do not refer to reality."' > > > > Calculus in the abstract realm is exact with zero point derivatives. > > > But real world curves would require infinite calculations to become > > > exact for the infinitely small point derivatives. John Nash has > > > pointed this out that what I am saying is true. > > > > It means calculus is only exact for the abstract world of math but not > > > for the math of calculating in the real world. > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > Answer the following: > > Dark matter soup would slow down anything moving through it. This > clearly is not happening. There is a better explanation to fast > orbiting outer galactic stars than a dark matter which cannot exist. > > Mitch Raemsch Dark matter is a frictionless superfluid one-something. If space is a void then what causes 'space' to ripple? 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter' http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the water." Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then were does the dark matter end and is where the dark matter ends the beginning of a void and if not a void then what are the properties space has where there is no dark matter and how do these properties distinguish this region of space from dark matter? If so then that is evidence dark matter exists from the point of the galaxy cluster collision to the Earth. Dark matter exists between the Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. The ripple will reach the Earth. The ripple propagates through the dark matter which exists between the Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. Dark matter is the medium in which the ripple propagates. Dark matter is the medium in which light waves propagate. The ripple is a gravity wave. The ripple is displaced dark matter. Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause spacetime to curve but not move. Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows a C-60 molecule to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without losing momentum. Explain what occurs physically in nature when mass converts to energy. Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows the future to determine the past. Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity. Dark Matter Displacement explains what occurs physically in nature in all of the above. Dark matter is displaced by matter. Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. Displaced dark matter exerts pressure towards the matter. A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. Physical effects caused by matter converting to dark matter is energy. Mass is conserved. The future does not determine the past in the physics of nature. Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.
From: BURT on 27 Jul 2010 19:18
On Jul 27, 4:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 27, 6:54 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 3:48 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 27, 6:46 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 27, 10:15 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 5:58 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 3:23 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 11:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:56 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:50 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 10:19 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 24, 9:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a physical reason why clocks in relative motion are running > > > > > > > > > > > > > at different rates. SR failed to provide that reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just told you the physical reason. > > > > > > > > > > > > I gather that you still don't understand the reason.. > > > > > > > > > > > > In such events, your proper response would be, "I still don't > > > > > > > > > > > > understand the reason. How does the hyperbolic geometry of spacetime > > > > > > > > > > > > cause relatively moving clocks to have different rates?" And they we > > > > > > > > > > > > could discuss the reason in more detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Hyperbolic geometry'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbolic_geometry > > > > > > > > > > > > "In mathematics, hyperbolic geometry (also called Lobachevskian > > > > > > > > > > > geometry or Bolyai-Lobachevskian geometry) is a non-Euclidean > > > > > > > > > > > geometry, meaning that the parallel postulate of Euclidean geometry is > > > > > > > > > > > replaced." > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Mathematics'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Albert Einstein, on the other hand, stated that "as far as the laws > > > > > > > > > > > of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as > > > > > > > > > > > they are certain, they do not refer to reality."' > > > > > Calculus in the abstract realm is exact with zero point derivatives.. > > > > But real world curves would require infinite calculations to become > > > > exact for the infinitely small point derivatives. John Nash has > > > > pointed this out that what I am saying is true. > > > > > It means calculus is only exact for the abstract world of math but not > > > > for the math of calculating in the real world. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Answer the following: > > > Dark matter soup would slow down anything moving through it. This > > clearly is not happening. There is a better explanation to fast > > orbiting outer galactic stars than a dark matter which cannot exist. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Dark matter is a frictionless superfluid one-something. Then by what action can it be displaced? Mitch Raemsch > > If space is a void then what causes 'space' to ripple? > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur... > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the > water." > > Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then were does the > dark matter end and is where the dark matter ends the beginning of a > void and if not a void then what are the properties space has where > there is no dark matter and how do these properties distinguish this > region of space from dark matter? If so then that is evidence dark > matter exists from the point of the galaxy cluster collision to the > Earth. > > Dark matter exists between the Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. > The ripple will reach the Earth. > The ripple propagates through the dark matter which exists between the > Earth and the galaxy cluster collision. > Dark matter is the medium in which the ripple propagates. > Dark matter is the medium in which light waves propagate. > > The ripple is a gravity wave. > The ripple is displaced dark matter. > > Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause spacetime to curve > but not move. > Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows a C-60 molecule > to enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously > without losing momentum. > Explain what occurs physically in nature when mass converts to energy. > Explain what occurs physically in nature which allows the future to > determine the past. > Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity. > > Dark Matter Displacement explains what occurs physically in nature in > all of the above. > > Dark matter is displaced by matter. > Dark matter is not at rest when displaced. > Displaced dark matter exerts pressure towards the matter. > A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. > Physical effects caused by matter converting to dark matter is energy. > Mass is conserved. > The future does not determine the past in the physics of nature. > Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |