From: Sam Wormley on
On 7/8/10 6:56 AM, kenseto wrote:
> On Jul 7, 11:17 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote:
>>
>>> SR is an incomplete aether theory.
>>
>> There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction
>> of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and
>> you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity
>> does not postulate or use the concept of aether!
>
> wrong....every SR observer chooses the aether frame to do physics. Let
> uses the aether frame to do physics. That's why SR and LET have the
> same math.

Now Seto, I am an SR observer and I don't a non existent aether
frame to do physics? How did you get so crippled?


>
> Ken Seto
>
>
>>
>> What is the experimental basis of special relativity?
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
>>
>> How do you add velocities in special relativity?
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/velocity.html
>>
>> Can special relativity handle acceleration?
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/acceleration.html
>

From: mpc755 on
On Jul 8, 8:16 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/8/10 6:56 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 11:17 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> >>> SR is an incomplete aether theory.
>
> >>     There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction
> >>     of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and
> >>     you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity
> >>     does not postulate or use the concept of aether!
>
> > wrong....every SR observer chooses the aether frame to do physics. Let
> > uses the aether frame to do physics. That's why SR and LET have the
> > same math.
>
>    Now Seto, I am an SR observer and I don't a non existent aether
>    frame to do physics? How did you get so crippled?
>

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable"

You are saying Einstein was crippled?

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"

The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the
matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the
aether's state of displacement.

"disregarding the causes which condition its state"

The cause which conditions its state is its displacement by matter.

Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity.
Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause the observed
behavior in a double slit experiment.
Explain what occurs physically in nature to cause matter to convert to
aether.

O-3, you are.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'.
The 'displacing back' by dark matter towards matter is pressure.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A.
EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark
matter. As matter transitions to dark matter it expands in three
dimensions. The effect this transition has on the neighboring dark
matter and matter is energy.

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In
a double slit experiment, the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter wave enters
and exits multiple slits. When the wave exits the slits it creates
interference which alters the direction the particle travels.
Detecting the particle causes decoherence of the associated dark
matter wave (i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: kenseto on
On Jul 8, 8:16 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/8/10 6:56 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 11:17 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> >>> SR is an incomplete aether theory.
>
> >>     There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction
> >>     of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and
> >>     you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity
> >>     does not postulate or use the concept of aether!
>
> > wrong....every SR observer chooses the aether frame to do physics. Let
> > uses the aether frame to do physics. That's why SR and LET have the
> > same math.
>
>    Now Seto, I am an SR observer and I don't a non existent aether
>    frame to do physics? How did you get so crippled?

Hey idiot when you assert that all the clocks moving wrt you are
running slow you are assuming that you are at rest in the aether
frame.
The correct assumption is that a clock moving wrt you can run slow or
fast compared too your clock.

>
>
>
>
>
> > Ken Seto
>
> >> What is the experimental basis of special relativity?
> >>    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments..html
>
> >> How do you add velocities in special relativity?
> >>    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/velocity.html
>
> >> Can special relativity handle acceleration?
> >>    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/acceleration.html- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: kenseto on
On Jul 8, 8:03 am, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 8, 9:56 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 7, 11:17 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 7/7/10 8:41 AM, kenseto wrote:
>
> > > > SR is an incomplete aether theory.
>
> > >    There has never been an observation that contracts a prediction
> > >    of special relativity. It remains a very fruitful theory and
> > >    you should take the time to learn it, Seto. Hint: Special relativity
> > >    does not posulate or use the concept of aether!
>
> > wrong....every SR observer chooses the aether frame to do physics.
>
> No .. they don't, they usually 'do physics' in their own rest frame.
> There is no aether frame in SR

Hey idiot when an SR asserts that all the clocks in the universe are
running slow he is assuming that he is at rest in the aether frame.
The correct assumption should be: A clock moving wrt an SR observer
can run slow or fast compared to his clock.

>
> Try some more lies, ken

From: Inertial on
"kenseto" wrote in message
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>
>Hey idiot when you assert that all the clocks moving wrt you are
>running slow

You measure them as running slow. But you know they are all running at the
correct rate in their own frames

> you are assuming that you are at rest in the aether frame.

Nope .. no aether involved or required. Why do you have to lie about what
SR says .. of course, I know the answer (and so do you), that there is no
problem at all with SR, so you have to LIE about what it says in order to
say it is wrong. You're a fraud.