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From: Sam Wormley on 14 Jul 2010 09:43 On 7/14/10 8:09 AM, kenseto wrote: > > Hey idiot...the point is that every inertial observer assumes the > properties of the preferred frame to make these predictions. That's > why every SR observer asserts that all the clocks in the universe > moving wrt every SR observer are running slow. > > Ken Seto > The observer has no special properties of any kind. The facts are that light has a constant finite speed and the is relative linear motion between the observer and the observed. I should also add that the laws of physics hold true for the observer and the observed. When the "relative velocity" between observer and observed is greater that zero, special relativity accurate predicts what the observer will measure, such as time dilation, mass increase and foreshortening. That's it! There is nothing else! Ta da!
From: PD on 14 Jul 2010 11:11 On Jul 14, 8:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > On Jul 13, 6:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 7/13/10 4:59 PM, kenseto wrote: > > > > No idiot SR didn't deny the existence of the preferred frame. It calls > > > the preferred frame as an inertial frame. > > > There is nothing preferred about inertial frames.... pick any and > > special relativity will accurately predict the observations of time > > dilation, mass increase, etc. for a observer in relative motion to > > that being observed. > > Hey idiot...the point is that every inertial observer assumes the > properties of the preferred frame to make these predictions. What YOU think the properties of the preferred frame are, are not what physicists think the properties of the preferred frame are. This has been pointed out to you -- what? -- three dozen times, and you still persist in making the same mistake. Do you often persist in making the same mistake after having the mistake pointed out to you? > That's > why every SR observer asserts that all the clocks in the universe > moving wrt every SR observer are running slow. > > Ken Seto > > > > > > > Particle accelerators are excellent examples of applications.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: kenseto on 17 Jul 2010 12:20 On Jul 14, 9:43 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/14/10 8:09 AM, kenseto wrote: > > > > > Hey idiot...the point is that every inertial observer assumes the > > properties of the preferred frame to make these predictions. That's > > why every SR observer asserts that all the clocks in the universe > > moving wrt every SR observer are running slow. > > > Ken Seto > > The observer has no special properties of any kind. Sure...every Sr observer claims that all the clocks in the universe are running slow. That's a special property. It is not special if he claims that an observed clock can run slow or fast compared to his clock. >The facts are > that light has a constant finite speed and the is relative linear > motion between the observer and the observed. I should also add that > the laws of physics hold true for the observer and the observed. > > When the "relative velocity" between observer and observed is greater > that zero, special relativity accurate predicts what the observer will > measure, such as time dilation, mass increase and foreshortening. > That's it! There is nothing else! > > Ta da!
From: kenseto on 17 Jul 2010 12:32 On Jul 14, 11:11 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 14, 8:09 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > On Jul 13, 6:11 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 7/13/10 4:59 PM, kenseto wrote: > > > > > No idiot SR didn't deny the existence of the preferred frame. It calls > > > > the preferred frame as an inertial frame. > > > > There is nothing preferred about inertial frames.... pick any and > > > special relativity will accurately predict the observations of time > > > dilation, mass increase, etc. for a observer in relative motion to > > > that being observed. > > > Hey idiot...the point is that every inertial observer assumes the > > properties of the preferred frame to make these predictions. > > What YOU think the properties of the preferred frame are, are not what > physicists think the properties of the preferred frame are. So why do you refuse to give us the special properties of the preferred frame?? Ken Seto >This has > been pointed out to you -- what? -- three dozen times, and you still > persist in making the same mistake. Do you often persist in making the > same mistake after having the mistake pointed out to you? > > > > > That's > > why every SR observer asserts that all the clocks in the universe > > moving wrt every SR observer are running slow. > > > Ken Seto > > > > Particle accelerators are excellent examples of applications.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: kenseto on 17 Jul 2010 12:39
On Jul 17, 12:20 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > On Jul 14, 9:43 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 7/14/10 8:09 AM, kenseto wrote: > > > > Hey idiot...the point is that every inertial observer assumes the > > > properties of the preferred frame to make these predictions. That's > > > why every SR observer asserts that all the clocks in the universe > > > moving wrt every SR observer are running slow. > > > > Ken Seto > > > The observer has no special properties of any kind. > > Sure...every Sr observer claims that all the clocks in the universe > are running slow. That's a special property. It is not special if he > claims that an observed clock can run slow or fast compared to his > clock. > > > > >The facts are > > that light has a constant finite speed and the is relative linear > > motion between the observer and the observed. I should also add that > > the laws of physics hold true for the observer and the observed. > > > When the "relative velocity" between observer and observed is greater > > that zero, special relativity accurate predicts what the observer will > > measure, such as time dilation, mass increase and foreshortening.. > > That's it! There is nothing else! > > > Ta da!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |