Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?
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From: Leythos on 24 Mar 2010 20:19 In article <hoe7t9$umc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, philnblanc(a)comcast.net says... > I also am going to continue to urge people to turn theirs off when not > in use, and I urge you all to do the same - but NOT because it will > extend the life of the components. > If you consider the following: Your LCD monitor goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used Your Hard-Drive goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used Your CPU throttles down in XX minutes under no load Your case fans throttle down when the heat decreases If you use your computer for 12-16 hours per day, how much money does it save you over 1 year to turn it off for 8 hours per day? Do you actually know the power level difference when all of the power saving features, except suspend/hibernation, are used vs. turning the computer completely off? -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: FromTheRafters on 24 Mar 2010 20:22 "RayLopez99" <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:2a795f5f-8a21-42ed-9a37-5458920a9af0(a)k13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... Same with computer viruses. In our modern era John, who is getting infected? Nobody SAVE zero-day attack victims. *** There you hit the nail on the head. Most of today's malware relies on exploiting that zero-day window of opportunity. Many don't even try to evade detection. *** So let's ask this question: have you or anybody you know ever been a zero-day attack victim? Nope? Didn't think so. *** Antimalware and antivirus using signature based methods must have signatures. They get signatures when they get samples of malware, from victims and intended victims, that they can analyze. If there were no victims, the signature would not have been derived from analysis and distributed to the scanners to protect us from it. The fact that you don't know anyone afflicted is more a testament to the success of the system than evidence that it is not needed. ***
From: Dustin Cook on 24 Mar 2010 20:29 Leythos <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in news:MPG.2614761163e5bfa598a20b(a)us.news.astraweb.com: > In article <hoe7t9$umc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > philnblanc(a)comcast.net says... >> I also am going to continue to urge people to turn theirs off when not >> in use, and I urge you all to do the same - but NOT because it will >> extend the life of the components. >> > > If you consider the following: > > Your LCD monitor goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used > Your Hard-Drive goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used > Your CPU throttles down in XX minutes under no load > Your case fans throttle down when the heat decreases > > If you use your computer for 12-16 hours per day, how much money does it > save you over 1 year to turn it off for 8 hours per day? > > Do you actually know the power level difference when all of the power > saving features, except suspend/hibernation, are used vs. turning the > computer completely off? A better question would be do they know how to check? :) -- "Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior
From: FromTheRafters on 24 Mar 2010 20:39 "Peter" <pete.ivesAll_stRESS(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.26140b32ab8a65959899a3(a)news.virginmedia.com... [...] > Recently, I was given a computer from a friend which had XP on it and > my > AVG was fine until yesterday, when it found what it said was spyware > (a > genuine file from bt called btwebcontrol.dll). Nothing wrong with it. > They used to have BT broadband. It also found a file in the system > restore which it categorised under the same virus name, which I am > presuming is the exact same file, except it's just called > A0000462.dll. > > 2 false positives. It seems these days AVG is finding files in system > restore which it didn't have a problem with previously and I am happy > to > accept are genuine files and not any kind of virus. Your logs seem to > indicate the same habit from Kaspersky. Actually, one false positive (on a...say...IBM Tools file) can, when the delete action is performed, result in three copies now existing instead of just the one. The AV in some cases will "delete" by adding the special character (to the original), save a copy hidden (possibly encrypted) in quarantine (just in case), and system restore will also save a copy (just in case). So delete results in replication. :oD
From: Leythos on 24 Mar 2010 20:49
In article <Xns9D45D1692C96AHHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.250>, bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com says... > > Leythos <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in > news:MPG.2614761163e5bfa598a20b(a)us.news.astraweb.com: > > > In article <hoe7t9$umc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > > philnblanc(a)comcast.net says... > >> I also am going to continue to urge people to turn theirs off when not > >> in use, and I urge you all to do the same - but NOT because it will > >> extend the life of the components. > >> > > > > If you consider the following: > > > > Your LCD monitor goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used > > Your Hard-Drive goes to sleep in XX minutes if not used > > Your CPU throttles down in XX minutes under no load > > Your case fans throttle down when the heat decreases > > > > If you use your computer for 12-16 hours per day, how much money does it > > save you over 1 year to turn it off for 8 hours per day? > > > > Do you actually know the power level difference when all of the power > > saving features, except suspend/hibernation, are used vs. turning the > > computer completely off? > > A better question would be do they know how to check? :) Having used a amp probe to setup my generator system and transfer box, I know almost exactly the low use, high use, and surge rating for every circuit in my house based on the typical devices connected to any feed.... I'm betting that most people that CLAIM the want to save power don't have a clue, in reality, and just go by something posted on a blog somewhere. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) |