From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:08:51 -0500, Jeffrey D Angus
<jangus(a)suddenlink.net> wrote:

>Oh, heh, you Apple people. We've had that for decades with
>Microsoft. About time you got on board.
>Jeff

I wrote this in about 1995, in honor of the rather ugly and failure
prone Windoze 3.1 to Win 95 upgrade cerimony.

Ninety Five fits on my disk.
I read the docs, there is no risk.
Fully tested and well planned.
Just type the words that they command.
Answer questions one by one.
Are you sure? You're almost done.
Pull the CD from the slot.
It all worked fine, and thanks a lot.
But with a reboot and my dismay,
All my programs went away.

The other Jeff...

If only they would pay my time,
to write the docs in verse and rhyme.

Actually, all of my XP and Vista to Windoze 7 updates have gone very
smoothly. After the Vista botch, MS seems to have gotten a clue.

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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:03:21 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Perhaps 3Gs don't suffer.

There is no iPod Touch 3GS. Only the 3G.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_touch>
Also, it's iOS 4, not OS 4.

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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:21:37 -0700, dplatt(a)radagast.org (Dave Platt)
wrote:

>I wouldn't think that location services would normally be a feature
>used on an iPod, but since this device uses the same OS as the
>iPhones, perhaps the feature was turned on accidentally during the
>upgrade, and your device was trying to figure out just where it is?

There is no GPS in the iPod Touch. Also, no camera and no microphone.

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From: Arfa Daily on


"Dave Platt" <dplatt(a)radagast.org> wrote in message
news:hd9df7-2qp.ln1(a)radagast.org...
>
> In article <enSUn.23762$wi5.15312(a)hurricane>,
> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Anyways, bit of an update. Left another couple of hours, by this evening,
>>the indicated battery level was down at 30%. So without doing anything
>>else,
>>I went into "settings", and turned off the wifi, then put it back to
>>sleep,
>>and just left it for another two hours. Lo ! When I returned and checked
>>it
>>again a few minutes ago, the battery level had crept back up to 45%, so it
>>looks like the wifi transmitter being continuously active, is the answer
>>to
>>why it is rinsing the battery. So the next question is, have Apple done
>>this
>>for some (in their mind) good reason - perhaps something to do with one of
>>the new 'features' in OS4 - or is it an oversight that they will correct
>>with a patch ? Perhaps 3Gs don't suffer. I understand that the machine
>>architecture is significantly different between the two.
>
> Seems odd, but... is there a chance that the "location services" were
> enabled? On many devices running the Apple OS, "Assisted GPS" is used
> to keep track of the current location: this can use a real GPS chip if
> there's one on-board, or pull location information from the cellphone
> system (if on-board and enabled), or [I gather] use the current WiFi
> base station's to deduce location from the information Google gleaned
> when they ran their Google Streets photo-cars around.
>
> I wouldn't think that location services would normally be a feature
> used on an iPod, but since this device uses the same OS as the
> iPhones, perhaps the feature was turned on accidentally during the
> upgrade, and your device was trying to figure out just where it is?
>
> --
> Dave Platt <dplatt(a)radagast.org> AE6EO

Interesting you say that, Dave. I have The Weather Channel desktop
application on it, and that does make use of location services, via the
wifi. I did have a look at that last night, and it was turned on, so I set
it to off, so together with switching the wifi itself off for the test,
that makes it sort of doubly disabled. If the battery holds up normally
today, I will try switching the wifi back on tomorrow, but leave the
location services off. Thanks for the suggestion.

Arfa

From: Arfa Daily on


"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:03:21 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
> <arfa.daily(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps 3Gs don't suffer.
>
> There is no iPod Touch 3GS. Only the 3G.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_touch>
> Also, it's iOS 4, not OS 4.
>
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Ah, I see you haven't taken your anti-pedant meds today Jeff ! :-)

I was of course, referring to the 3G iPod in the plural - as in "three
gees", which would be why I used a small "s". As to the name of the
software, it was OS4 I believe, until they publicly released it a few days
ago, when it became "iOS4", which is more cumbersome to type. I knew what I
meant. You apparently knew what I meant. Everyone else knew what I meant ...

Arfa